[Sis-dtn] BPSec Red Book Annex A - ICS RL RIDs
Robert C Durst
durst at mitre.org
Fri Mar 21 17:25:52 UTC 2025
Thanks, Lars and Lukas!
Adding the Book Editor (Jonathan Jackson) and the WG (plus Security WG chair) to distro (and including your attachment).
I was out of office yesterday and didn’t get to join the DTN WG call. I have a conflict this coming Thursday, as well, but hope to be able to work something out.
I gave these a quick look and see nothing that I disagree with (not that that particularly matters…). The clarifications you offer are most helpful. Clearly 14 and 15 are the meaty ones – I’m inclined to support your initial alternative on 14 (remove fragmentation-related tests) for now. I have raised the issue with the IETF WG chairs, and they VERY MUCH do not want us to divert from RFC behavior (and I agree with them). It seems like the best approaches are to 1) define a security context that establishes the behaviors we want – I believe that this is permitted without violating 9172, and/or 2) assist IETF with drafting an acceptable fix to 9172 (and possibly 9171), which will, of course, require us to issue pink sheets once it comes out.
Best,
Bob
From: Lars Baumgaertner <Lars.Baumgaertner at esa.int>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 10:15 AM
To: Robert C Durst <durst at mitre.org>
Cc: Lukas Holst <Lukas.Holst at ext.esa.int>
Subject: [EXT] BPSec Red Book Annex A - ICS RL RIDs
Hi Bob, While testing our ESA BP impl against annex A of the BPSec red book – Lukas implemented each and every one as a unit test - we found a few issues with the requirements list ☹ I know it’s a bit late but some of the stuff should be discussed
Hi Bob,
While testing our ESA BP impl against annex A of the BPSec red book – Lukas implemented each and every one as a unit test - we found a few issues with the requirements list ☹
I know it’s a bit late but some of the stuff should be discussed (and fixed) before publishing the book.
There are some editorial issues but also technical problems, bpsec and fragmentation the never-ending story, and duplicate tests.
I attached the findings as a txt file with all the RIDs.
We initially wanted to bring this up at the dtn wg meeting a few weeks ago when we discussed the other bpsec issues but the session was just too short..
We also have a nice spreadsheet for the ICS RL which I could share if others want to test their implementation but since the tests and their number will (have to) change, I will delay that. We are all delay-tolerant, aren’t we? 😉
Have a nice weekend,
Lars
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