[Sis-csi] IPv6?

Schneider, Larry larry.schneider at nasa.gov
Thu Jun 7 14:02:15 EDT 2007


CEV has a requirement to support IPv4 with a transition to IPv6 for
lunar. By going early they avoid the cost to support both solutions and
an awkward program transition. 
 
Mobile IP is included and standardized in IPv6 whereas in IPv4 it is
supported only under proprietary solutions.
 
IPv6 eliminates private addresses.
 
I'm not suggesting it can't work either way, I'm only indicating how it
currently from my vantage.
 
 

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From: Donald P Olsen [mailto:Donald.P.Olsen at aero.org] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:53 AM
To: Schneider, Larry
Cc: David Carek; CCSDS Cislunar Space Internetworking WG;
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Subject: RE: [Sis-csi] IPv6?



Greetings 

Moorse(sp) law is a great mitigator to address space cost in space. 

Don 



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At this point it appears likely that CEV and MS will support IPv6 from
the outset. An answer is expected in the summer timeframe.



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I personally don't think address space is a driver in determining NASA's
space protocol needs.  Space assets are very expensive and I doubt there
will be a significant number off addresses required.  NASA already has a
significant allocation of v4 address it can use.  Either version will
work from an address space point of view.

Edward Greenberg wrote:
> Marc,  Maybe this is a dumb question but if the all the Earth systems 
> are transferring to IPv6 is there anyone that is the broker for 
> trading
> IPv6 address space for IPv4 address space.  If so then by 2010 there 
> should be lots of IPv4 addresses available.  If NASA transforms itself

> to IPv6 then what happens to all of NASA's IPv4 address?  If JSC 
> transfers over to IPv6 would there be enough IPv4 addresses to 
> accommodate NASA's space address space needs indefinitely?
> 
> 
> 
> At 10:06 AM -0400 6/7/07, Marc Blanchet wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  as you might have noticed, ARIN board recently advised the community

>> that IPv4 addresses are going away and push the community to consider
>> IPv6 asap... The concensus currently is that IPv4 addresses will be 
>> gone by 2010 from the IANA pool and then x months later from the RIR 
>> pool.  Given that space projects are "long term" projects, at the 
>> time some IP address space will be needed for space in, say 2012, 
>> then v4 addresses won't be available. only IPv6 addresses will be
available.
>>  given the multi-international scope of space projects, I can't 
>> imagine having IPv4 NATs between spacecrafts that forces VoIP traffic

>> to go through earth just because of traversing NAT... ouach....
>>  therefore, I think this group should really consider:
>> - ipv6 as the primary IP protocol
>> - ipv6 as possible only IP protocol
>> - designing a contingency plan if v4 is still considered.
>>
>> comments?
>>
>> references:
>> - ARIN board resolution on IPv4/Ipv6: 
>> http://www.arin.net/announcements/20070521.html
>> - exhaustion of IPv4 address space timeline: 
>> http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html
>>
>> Marc.
>>
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