[Moims-sc] [EXTERNAL] [CCSDS] MAL Header - Optimization
Churlaud Olivier
Olivier.Churlaud at cnes.fr
Mon May 22 13:27:07 UTC 2023
We have a service version number in the header, so if we bump the version of all MO services (which is expected), it will have the impact you expect, won’t it ?
The important interoperability contract is at Service level, not MAL level. We could add also a MAL-version field in the PDU but I think the overhead will not bring any value since we already have the service version defined, but I might be wrong.
Best regards
Olivier
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If the defined values are within USHORT range that aspect sounds fine, and you won’t have to change the current list. But the change to these field lengths means that you will not have interoperability between different versions.
I saw nor mention of version number changes. So I find this change of the fundamental header structures and field sizes, without a change of version number, to be out of compliance with normal CCSDS practices.
I will point out that there are changes in document version numbers for other standards, but these do not involve changes in PDU format nor version numbers.
Regards, Peter
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Hi Peter,
All the previously defined service areas, services, and operations are within the UOctet range.
They can be casted into the UOctet type.
Best regards,
César Coelho
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It’s your choice, of course, but doesn’t this totally blow backward compatibility? The only way this would be allowed in most CCSDS specs is if it were given a different version number.
Regards, Peter
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Moims-sc] [CCSDS] MAL Header - Optimization
Dear SM&Cers,
I would like to propose an optimization in the MAL Headers.
Basically, to change the type of Service Area, Service, and Operation, to UOctet (range is 0 to 255):
Field
Type
Description
From
Identifier
Message Source
Authentication Id
Blob
Authentication Identifier of Message Originator
To
Identifier
Message Destination
Timestamp
Time
Message generation timestamp
Interaction Type
InteractionType
Interaction Pattern Type
Interaction Stage
UOctet
Interaction Pattern Stage
Transaction Id
Long
Unique to consumer
Service Area
UShort
Service Area
Service
UShort
Service
Operation
UShort
Service Operation
Service version
UOctet
Service version
Is Error Message
Boolean
‘True’ if this is an error message; else ‘False’
Supplements
List<NamedValue>
Optional supplementary fields
This optimization also allows the Fully Qualified Short Form Part to be defined using a UInteger (4Bytes) instead of a ULong (8Bytes).
From: Area Number (UShort – 2B), Area Version (UShort – 2B), Service Number (UShort – 2B), SFP (Short – 2B)
To: Area Number (UOctet – 1B), Area Version (UOctet – 1B), SFP (Short – 2B)
In terms of changes, this is easy to fix in the books, and also in the code.
Let me know if you disagree with this optimization.
If I receive no reply within the next 2 weeks, I will assume that you agree and I will update the book accordingly.
Best regards,
César Coelho
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