[MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.7)

Wed Jun 12 07:32:52 UTC 2019

Hello David

OK for suggestion #1 and #3. As far as #2 is concerned, I see “figure figure 3-1” on my screen (see the pdf attached), but if you think that it is only a “trick” of my system, that is OK with me.

Best regards

B. Behal
Directrice des Achats, des Recettes externes et des Affaires juridiques
Bpi 1625
Tel: 73396

De : Berry, David S (3920) <david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov>
Envoyé : mardi 11 juin 2019 19:57
À : Behal Brigitte <Brigitte.Behal at cnes.fr>
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Objet : Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.7)

Brigitte:

Thanks for your comments...

Suggestion #1. Your first comment refers to the classification of a quasar as a "participant". This is a valid classification that was not considered at the time Figure 2-1 was conceived; it does not fit well into the Figure. My preference would be to remove the word "quasars" in Section 4.2.1 as it is not critical to the content (it's essentially an "niche participant" outside the 3 broad classes identified in Figure 2-1. The great bulk of participants are covered by Figure 2-1; quasars are used in one tracking technique and it is explained in the Tracking Data Messages. When I send the final copy to the Secretariat, I will remove the word "quasars" from 4.2.1.

Suggestions #2 and #3. These are editorial changes in nature; the same text has been in all prior versions of the document, and have not been modified by the CCSDS Editor, so I tend to think that they are satisfactory as is.

Regards,
David

From: Behal Brigitte <Brigitte.Behal at cnes.fr<mailto:Brigitte.Behal at cnes.fr>>
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 3:19 AM
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.7)

Hello David
I went through your last version. If it is not too late, I found 3 minor points that could be improved.
Best regards
B. Behal
Directrice des Achats, des Recettes externes et des Affaires juridiques
Bpi 1625
Tel: 73396

De : Berry, David S (3920) <david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Objet : FW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.7)

Mario:

The Lead Editor of subject document (Patrick Zimmerman) has modified the document to address your suggestions from the Area Director Review. The MS Word document is attached; it can be forwarded to the Secretariat/CCSDS Lead Editor when you have completed your review and resolution...

Thanks Patrick for quick turnaround!

And Thanks Mario for the review & resolution!

David

From: "ZIMMERMAN, PATRICK LOUIS. (JSC-CM551)[SGT, INC]" <patrick.zimmerman at nasa.gov<mailto:patrick.zimmerman at nasa.gov>>
Date: Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM
To: "Berry, David S (3920)" <david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.6)

David,

Find attached g1.0.7 with Mario’s suggestion implemented.

  *   Section 3.2 Terms and Definitions are merged into section 2.2.2, with some minor adjustments to make the two sections of definitions conform with each other in style (using a leading capital letter for the 3.2 items and adding the colon after the Term for the original 2.2.2 items)
  *   The merge also required the change of Figure 3-1 in section 3 to be Figure 2-1 in section 2, with the attendant Figure re-numbering of all the other figures in both sections and Figure referencing updating throughout the document (and TOC). I also placed Figure 2-1 to be in-line with the document, as opposed to the Figure 3-1 split-column nature, which I always found very awkward.
  *   Minor fix-ups to the 1.3 structure overview and to the section 2.2.2 title due to the merging.

Patrick

From: Berry, David S (3920) <david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Subject: FW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.6)

Patrick:  Any objection?  If not, go ahead and make a G1.0.7.

DSB

From: "Mario.Merri at esa.int<mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int>" <Mario.Merri at esa.int<mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int>>
Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.6)

Thanks David,

I think it would be cleaner to move all the terms in the same section. It also will not cost too much time. If you agree, please resubmit the document and in the meantime I'll prepare the resolution.

Thanks and sorry for being pedantic (but I am not the only one in the CCSDS).

Regards,

__Mario

From:        "Berry, David S (3920)" <david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Date:        04/06/2019 00:52
Subject:        Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.6)
________________________________

Mario:

The terms in Section 3.2 are related specifically to the "NAVIGATION DATA MESSAGE EXCHANGE FRAMEWORK" that is the subject of this section. If you prefer, we could move the definitions into Section 2.2.2. (I have copied the Lead Editor for the document in case that is what you would like us to do, so please "Reply All" to this message.)

I believe that these terms are compatible with terms used in the Navigation WG Blue Books, though some of them may have more lengthy definition here and thus perhaps not "identical". We also have a number of terms in the CCSDS SANA Glossary. The WG also recently submitted revisions to the definitions of navigation WG terms on SANA, but they have not yet been processed.

Please advise if you think we should move the definitions into Section 2.2.2.

Thanks!

David

From: "Mario.Merri at esa.int<mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int>" <Mario.Merri at esa.int<mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int>>
Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 6:03 AM
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Cc: "brigitte.behal at cnes.fr<mailto:brigitte.behal at cnes.fr>" <brigitte.behal at cnes.fr<mailto:brigitte.behal at cnes.fr>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.6)

Hi David,

sorry again for the delay. I went through the document, which I find very good, and I have the following comment

Section 3.2 TERMS AND DEFINITIONS
Why are these terms not defined in section 2.2.2 or in any case all together. Also, I assume that they definition is compatible (or better identical) to the corresponding definitions in the related BBs

@Brigitte: do you have any additional comment?

Regards,

__Mario

From:        "Berry, David S (3920)" <david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:david.s.berry at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Cc:        CCSDS Secretariat <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>, "moims-nav-exec at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:moims-nav-exec at mailman.ccsds.org>" <moims-nav-exec at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:moims-nav-exec at mailman.ccsds.org>>
Date:        18/05/2019 02:04
Subject:        Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book Version 2 (Draft 1.0.6)

________________________________

Mario:

The CCSDS ORGANIZATION AND PROCESSES document A02.1-Y-4 states that "At such time as the WG has completed its [Green Book] development, the WG chair may petition the CESG via the Area Director to publish the final document as a CCSDS Informational Report."

The attached document represents work that has been conducted in the Navigation WG to provide an update to the existing Navigation Data Messages Overview Green Book (document 500.2-G-1).  We believe that it is ready for publication, and request that the requisite polls and Secretariat document processing commence at your convenience (this was "Resolution NAV-2" in our final report from the Spring 2019 Meetings recently concluded).

Please advise if there is anything else you need or require.

Regards,

David [attachment "500x2g1.0.6.doc" deleted by Mario Merri/esoc/ESA]

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