[MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] SANA Registry Mockup for Navigation Standards Annexes / Meet at Gaithersburg

[Berry, David S (3920)]

Hi Julien:

In this email trail, Marc indicated that you would be at the CCSDS Meetings on Thursday 12-Apr-2018 and Friday 13-Apr-2018. I'm wondering if you have some time to meet with the Navigation WG on Thursday? Currently I have a 2 hour topic on Wednesday for discussion of our plans for hosting material on the SANA registry, but I will move that agenda item to Thursday depending on your availability.

Please advise,
Thanks!
David Berry
Chair, CCSDS Navigation WG




On 3/9/18, 7:51 PM, "Marc Blanchet" <info at sanaregistry.org> wrote:

    On 9 Mar 2018, at 18:53, Berry, David S (3920) wrote:
    
    > Marc:
    >
    > Thanks for your response. I have a couple of questions based upon it. 
    > BTW the mockup was only intended to show how we thought things could 
    > look, not necessarily how it should be implemented. That of course is 
    > your domain.
    >
    > My questions:
    >
    > 1. If we restrict the content to things that aren't graphics, are 
    > these registries something that we can move forward with? We can 
    > probably get 90+% of our objective without graphics and/or equations.
    
    our preliminary research shows that equations should be pretty 
    straightforward, so I guess we can assume that we can support equations 
    pretty fast. Graphics (or any external reference to files) that are 
    inline to a cell are a bit more complicated. not rocket science, just 
    more complicated.
    
    >
    > 2. Do you have a technical manual that describes the API access?
    
    we used to have one. let me see.
    
    >
    > 3. Is the API access something we can use to update registries? or 
    > only read them?
    
    read only.
    
    >
    > 4. How can we schedule some time with you during the CCSDS Meeting?
    
    Julien Bernard will be the SANA staff present during the meeting. He is 
    cced. He will be there thrusday and friday. Please coordinate with him 
    on possible time.
    
    Regards, Marc.
    
    >
    > Thanks!
    > David
    >
    >
    >
    > On 3/9/18, 8:59 AM, "Marc Blanchet" <info at sanaregistry.org> wrote:
    >
    >     Hello,
    >       thanks for the mockup. Registries have been made up to now to 
    > hold
    >     simple data (numbers, strings) in a database. There were not 
    > intended to
    >     have rich format with graphics, equations, etc… Therefore, the
    >     question is not about a mockup in html, as we are not delivering 
    > the
    >     registries as html pages. We also provide an API therefore the 
    > data also
    >     has to be correctly formatted and defined for API access.
    >       We will be looking into this. In the mean time, we can support 
    > basic
    >     entries and then update the entries as we are adding more rich 
    > format
    >     objects.
    >
    >       BTW, if you want to meet, one of us will be at the next CCSDS 
    > meeting
    >     on thrusday and friday.
    >
    >     Marc.
    >
    >     On 3 Mar 2018, at 12:20, Berry, David S (3920) wrote:
    >
    >     > Marc & Company:
    >     >
    >     > As you may recall, the SANA Operator and the CCSDS Navigation 
    > Working
    >     > Group teleconferenced on 31-Jan-2018 regarding our 
    > identification of
    >     > the need to define certain kinds of data that could usefully be 
    > placed
    >     > in a SANA registry instead of in formal, infrequently updated
    >     > documents. Such data is currently defined in a variety of 
    > annexes to
    >     > CCSDS Blue Books authored by the CCSDS Navigation WG. During our
    >     > teleconference we informally proposed a registry for the purpose 
    > of
    >     > migrating information in these annexes to a Local/WG Registry 
    > under
    >     > the auspices of the SANA.
    >     >
    >     > Per the process documented in the "Procedures for SANA Registry
    >     > Specification" CCSDS 313.2-Y-1, we now formally propose such a
    >     > registry as there is no current registry that meets the 
    > identified
    >     > need or can be adapted to meet the need. Our proposed registry 
    > name is
    >     > "CCSDS Navigation Standards Normative Annexes", but this is not 
    > a hard
    >     > requirement. We are open to a different name if there is a 
    > better one
    >     > based on your expertise with the registry system.
    >     >
    >     > In order to better illustrate our concept, I have attached a 
    > mockup of
    >     > the proposed registry in Unix tar file format. It is similar in
    >     > structure and function to those of some existing annexes, e.g., 
    > the
    >     > CCSDS Glossary registry https://sanaregistry.org/r/glossary or 
    > the
    >     > Roles registry https://sanaregistry.org/r/roles . You can 
    > "install"
    >     > the mockup by issuing the command "tar xvf 
    > SANA-annex-mockup.tar" from
    >     > the unix command line. The top page of the registry in the 
    > mockup is
    >     > "index.html"; if you display this in a browser it will link to 
    > the
    >     > other pages in the mockup. NOTE: There are a lot of "pictures" 
    > here,
    >     > i.e., not active links as are available in an actual registry, 
    > but I
    >     > think it serves to show the nature of our concept. It is also 
    > only a
    >     > subset of the actual entries in any of the given annexes; again, 
    > to
    >     > illustrate the concept, only a small subset was selected for 
    > each of
    >     > the lower level registries. I manufactured OID numbers, but the 
    > one
    >     > level that would be assigned by SANA I indicated with an "X".
    >     >
    >     > We are hoping that this mockup serves to illustrate our concept, 
    > and
    >     > how closely it conforms to the nature and purpose of some 
    > existing
    >     > registries in the SANA. We are still working to finalize our 
    > planned
    >     > content, and hope to get a "green light" to move forward from 
    > the SANA
    >     > Operator in the near future. From 313.2-Y-1 I understand that we 
    > may
    >     > need to create a CCSDS Yellow Book to document this new 
    > registry; when
    >     > we have approval from the SANA Operator we will proceed to 
    > create such
    >     > a resource.
    >     >
    >     > Please advise your thoughts on our proposal...
    >     >
    >     > Best Regards,
    >     > David Berry
    >     > Chair, CCSDS Navigation WG
    >     >
    >     > P.S.:  There is one of our lower level registries that may be 
    > more
    >     > appropriate as material to be added to the CCSDS Glossary,
    >     > specifically, the "Attitude & Spacecraft Conventions" registry. 
    > I have
    >     > placed this one at the end of our list of registries due to this
    >     > different nature. All of the other lower level registries 
    > contain
    >     > values for keywords in our standards, but this last one has 
    > material
    >     > that is more oriented towards a glossary of terms.