[Css-csts] Draft Red FF book on CWE
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int
Tue Jun 19 06:36:34 UTC 2018
Hi Erik and John,
I think John summarizes quite nicely the position of the CSTS WG as
discussed in Gaithersburg (yes, saves some typing :-). However, since the
CSTS SFW should contain soon all changes required for CSTS FF I wanted to
talk to Wolfgang, back in July, when he thinks the updates can be done and
how close we are to a SFW B-2 ready for AD review and submission to
secretariat for Agency Review. As far as I had understood, the current
changes to the SFW impact mostly the forward procedures, which justifies
the prototyping approach (SFW covered by FF prototyping). For SFW updates
impacting return procedures we have to be a little bit careful to
a) not impact TD (as far as we can)
b) avoid the need of prototyping again the SFW return procedures,
which is not covered yet by anything
I have (had) the hope that we could reach these two conditions for the SFW
and even more, that it would be perhaps possible to go down the route Erik
outlines, namely to pass the SFW also for review relatively soon. Clearly
we can then prioritize the FF over the SFW.
What I always have in mind is that we must by all means work on the
Functional Resources. Currently I believe they are not completed to an
extent that allows an MD implementation.
Best regards,
Holger
Holger Dreihahn
European Spacecraft Operations Centre | European Space Agency | S-431
+49 6151 90 2233 | http://www.esa.int/esoc
From: "Barkley, Erik J (3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: John Pietras <john.pietras at gst.com>, "Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int"
<Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int>
Cc: CCSDS_CSTSWG <css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org>, "Colin.Haddow at esa.int"
<Colin.Haddow at esa.int>
Date: 19/06/2018 04:04
Subject: RE: Draft Red FF book on CWE
John,
Thanks for the inputs, background. I certainly am aware of the priorities
that NASA has expressed with regard to FF CSTS. We have TD CSTS which
will likely be going forward for blue book publication consideration as
soon as the prototyping completes and I would very much not like to have
this upset by changes to the framework (probably slim-to-none chance of
that as no doubt the FF CSTS supporting changes affect the forward side of
the framework only? ). In any case, I still look forward to hearing what
Holger has to say – perhaps you have saved him some typing :-)
Best regards,
-Erik
From: John Pietras <john.pietras at gst.com>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:27 PM
To: Barkley, Erik J (3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>;
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int
Cc: CCSDS_CSTSWG <css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: RE: Draft Red FF book on CWE
Erik,
If I can offer some thoughts, I believe that I can address the WG’s
position on this. Of course, if I’ve misunderstood something I’m sure that
Holger can set the record straight.
First, we did (and do) have the understanding that getting the FF book
published is a very high priority, at least for NASA. We are hoping to
have the F Red-1 review completed and the RID resolutions determined (that
is, know the answers even if they aren’t updated in the book itself) by 31
December, on a path to get a Blue-1 in the summer of 2019. We were
concerned that delaying the review of the FF book until both it and the
updated SFW can get through the Secretariat editing process and have both
of them formally reviewed simultaneously could seriously jeopardize that
schedule. We thought maybe you (and maybe Peter) could pull some strings
to bump up the priority in the Secretariat’s queue for the FF book, but
didn’t want to push our luck with doing that for 2 books. Throw August
slowdown in the middle of all of this and you can see our motivation for
focusing as narrowly as we could justifiably get away with.
Second, although we are quite confident that the current draft SFW Pink
Book addresses the issues raised by the FF book in the procedures most
directly associated with the FF services, there may be some residual
“echoes” that affect other procedures in the book. Due to our focus on
supporting the progression of the FF book, the focus on the SFW draft Pink
Book has been primarily on those FF-related procedures. There is also the
issue of re-prototyping the other procedures that have been affects, for
which the current thinking is that the WG can do some regression testing
of the changes with the other CSTSes (MD and TD) that use them.
So the approach that we WG developed in Gaithersburg was as follows:
1. Get the SFW draft Pink Book to a point where it accurately
reflects the current thinking, and matches and supports the FF book.
2. Make the SFW *informal draft* Pink Book available *as a review
aid* for the FF Red-1 review. Perhaps by posting it to the public folder
of the CSTSWG CWE. We could even informally solicit comments on the SFW
changes in case anyone wishes to offer them.
3. While the FF Red-1 review is underway (e.g., late summer into
fall), work more on the SFW Pink Book, ideally to the point where it could
be ready for submission the Secretariat. However, depending on the actual
timing of the FF red-1 book review completion and the process of
completion of the SFW Pink Book generation, the WG might decide to wait to
see if any of the FF review comments are significant enough to ripple back
into the SFW itself.
4. Conduct the formal CCSDS review of the SFW Pink Book while the FF
book is being updated to Blue-1 (hopefully) or Red-2. In any case, the
goal would be to have an approved Blue-2 SFW in the next spring/summer
timeframe, ready to support Blue-1 FF if we are fortunate enough to be
able to go directly to FF Blue-1.
Peter Shames was in the room with us when we discussed this and he thought
it was a good approach.
Holger, have a done a reasonably good job of summarizing our approach?
Best regards,
John
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Subject: Re: [Css-csts] Draft Red FF book on CWE
Dear Holger,
Thank you very much for sending the notification and the link to the FF
CSTS book. I will endeavor to take a look and get through the review as
soon as possible. However, in the meantime, I do have a question as to
approaching agency review for this. To me it makes sense, if we can, to
run the reviews of the updated SFW (pink sheets) in parallel with those of
the FF CSTS book. The rationale being that if a reviewer is being
thorough (yes it might happen :-)) it would be good to have both books
available. Can you please let me know your thoughts on this?
Best regards,
-Erik
From: Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int <Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 5:21 AM
To: Barkley, Erik J (3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
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Subject: Fw: Draft Red FF book on CWE
Dear Erik,
Please find below the link to the CSTS FF Red-1 book for your review and
approval for submission to secretariat. Below is also a link to the
updated CSTS SFW (now a Draft Pink Book). There are some CSTS SFW changes
pending, but as said below we believe the CSTS SFW is fine for serving the
purpose of reviewing the CSTS FF.
Please let us know your comments and then how to proceed.
Best regards,
Holger
Holger Dreihahn
European Spacecraft Operations Centre | European Space Agency | S-431
+49 6151 90 2233 | http://www.esa.int/esoc
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From: John Pietras <john.pietras at gst.com>
To: "Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int" <Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int>, "Pham,
Timothy T (3300) (timothy.t.pham at jpl.nasa.gov)" <
timothy.t.pham at jpl.nasa.gov>, Wolfgang Hell <wo_._he at t-online.de>
Date: 17/06/2018 21:14
Subject: Draft Red FF book on CWE
Dear Holger, Tim, and Wolfgang,
I have finished my updates of the FF book, which include the updates from
Wolfgang’s review plus those resulting from the discussion that Wolfgang
and I had last Monday. I believe that unless you have additional comments,
this is ready to send to Erik for his AD review and approval for
submission to the Secretariat to request Red-1 review. The draft FF book
can be found at URL
https://cwe.ccsds.org/css/docs/CSS-CSTS/CWE%20Private/Future%20Services%20using%20Toolkit/Forward%20Frame%20CSTS/FF-CSTS-r-0_1-180615.zip
Note that there is a difference between the information Annex “Cross
References to Cross Support Transfer Service Specification Framework”
(Annex L) and the corresponding annexes in the MD and TD book and
Guidelines. Section 4.18 of the Guidelines states “The CSTS shall provide
in an informative annex a table listing the specific (sub)sections and
paragraphs of the CSTS Specification Framework (reference [1]) that are
referenced by the new CSTS, and identifies the (sub)sections and
paragraphs of this new CSTS that make specific reference to each of those
CSTS Specification Framework (sub)sections/paragraphs.” The reason that
this annex is to exist is to aid the updating of the CSTS specification if
and when the SFW is updated. I had suggested this particular approach.
However, I have found that constructing this annex is a time-consuming and
error-prone process. For the Forward Frames book I have instead listed the
pages of the FF book on which the references exist instead of the
(sub)sections of the FF book in which the cross-references appear. This
allowed me to use Word’s built-in indexing capability. This produces a
much more complete and consistent cross reference annex, and it serves the
same purpose as the originally-defined annex. I recommend that we use this
approach from now on. If you do not agree that this approach can be used,
I can generate the (sub)section-based annex in the coming weeks, but for
the purposes of Erik’s review the current form is fine. (Note also that if
we take this approach, we don’t necessarily need to change the
corresponding annexes MD and TD books because they still meet the intent
of the annexes.)
Wolfgang had sent to me his markup of the CSTS SFW, to which I aligned the
FF book. In our discussion last Monday, Wolfgang and discovered a few more
changes that need to be made to the SFW, which he will make when he
returns in July. In the process of finishing the FF book edits, I also
discovered a very few more items that need to be updated in the SFW,
mostly along the lines of making agreed changes consistent across the DP,
BDP, and SCPD procedures. I have documented these needed changes in detail
and will send them tomorrow to Wolfgang and copy you. I have also changed
the labelling of the draft SFW to that of a Draft Pink Book and uploaded
it to the CWE at URL
https://cwe.ccsds.org/css/docs/CSS-CSTS/CWE%20Private/CSTS%20Framework%20and%20Concept/CSTS%20SFW%20Pink%20Book/921x1p1x1%20draft%20180613.doc
Wolfgang and I agreed that for the purposes of Erik’s review the changes
that are still to be made to the SFW are in the noise, and so we agree
that we can safely point Erik to this draft for whatever cross-referencing
he might choose to do.
Best regards,
John
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