[CMC] RE: Space Information Day

[Adrian J. Hooke]

Mario: I also have to agree. So far we have had two or three Space 
Information Days and the attendance has been very disappointing. 
While it's good that the OMG is trying to develop space as one of its 
domains and the SDTF should continue, it's pretty clear that the 
market will continue to be tiny for the foreseeable future. As 
discussed in Brussels, it would probably be far more effective for us 
to stage joint CCSDS/OMG technical sessions at major space 
conferences than to keep hoping to attract a crowd during OMG meetings.

Best regards
///Adrian
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Adrian J. Hooke
Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG)

At 01:21 AM 7/13/2007, Mario.Merri at esa.int wrote:

>Dear Ken,
>
>I fully share Rob's position below. I think that the OMG Space Day in
>Brussels was quite an insuccess. Time and resources have been spent by
>several parties to make presentations to ourselves on very well know topics.
>This was useful neither as knowledge sharing session nor as public relation
>exercise.
>
>At ESA, we are quite disappointed also because we understood the Space Day to
>be a sort of OMG plenary with good participation and proper pre-advertisement
>of the event. Instead, it turned out to be a meeting with the usual 5 people.
>You do not need keynote speakers for that.
>
>Clearly, the next space day, if there will be one, should build on this
>experience.
>
>Best regards,
>
>__Mario
>------------------------------------------
>Dr. Mario Merri
>Head of Application Mission Data System Section (OPS-GDA)
>European Space Agency ESA/ESOC
>Robert-Bosch-Str. 5, D-64293 Darmstadt, Germany
>Tel: +49 (6151) 90 2292 - Email: Mario.Merri at esa.int - Web: www.esa.int/esoc
>
>              Rob Andzik
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>                                         RE: Space Information Day
>
>Ken,
>
>After the Thursday seminar in Brussels we had a discussion with Adrian Hooke
>and Mario Merri about the info day. They both expressed a concern regarding
>the low attendance and the fact that it always seems to be the same audience.
>As Mario pointed out, we are preaching to the already converted.
>
>One of the main problems we face in our TF is that there are several annual
>workshops such as GSAW, the Space Symposium and ITC that address issues in
>the space domain. These have established a significant following and reduce
>the amount of funds and time available for people to attend OMG meetings. The
>OMG meetings tend to draw the technical experts while the other three
>workshops draw those with decision making authority and the funds to back it
>up. Rather than compete with these, our suggestion is to direct our efforts
>toward chairing sessions at these events.  In particular, Adrian and I
>thought that the Space Symposium in Colorado Springs would provide an
>excellent venue for a combined CCSDS and OMG SDTF workshop.
>
>I do not know what the OMG stand on this is, but I do believe that we will
>have more impact in these venues than at a technical meeting. It would also
>show to the space community in general that OMG and CCSDS are cooperating and
>focused on providing good standards for the space industry.
>
>-- Rob
>
>From: ken berk [mailto:kenberk at omg.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:07 PM
>To: drian.hooke at jpl.nasa.gov; andzik at rtlogic.com; bkizzort at harris.com
>Subject: Space Information Day
>
>While in Brussels we discussed holding a two day Space Information Day at the
>Washington DC Technical Meeting March 10-14, 2008. The Info Days would be
>March 11-12, 2008.
>
>While at the OMG Real-Time workshop I met Stephen Barrow of STSCI. They are
>working on an infrared replacement of the Hubble telescope and I thought that
>this might make an interesting session.
>
>Also at the workshop was Dr. Keith Nicewarner, Chief Software Architect of
>SpaceDev, Inc., he also expressed interest in presenting at the space day.
>
>I will keep you posted if I run into any more possible presenters.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ken