[CESG] General comment and question on the new TM Sync and Coding blue book (131-B-6)
Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de
Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de
Wed Mar 4 06:07:03 EST 2026
>From a CCSDS perspective, once this B-6 version will be published, the B-5
will be silverised and get the identified B-5-S and such to be considered
historical or obsoleted. In light of this, in my opinion, an implementation
shall be conformant to the B-6 version. I'm also scared of the "CCSDS
compliant coding" statement because in this very specific case it might mean
that a spacecraft implementation follow B-5 (i.e. no pseudo-randomizer) and
a ground station follow B-6 (i.e. pseudo-randomiser, with the receiver
"trying" to de-randomize the incoming TFs).
What in my opinion is also tricky is that these old books that are
periodically revised are not expected to implement an ICS annex, which
somehow can already guide implementers as to what shall be supported for a
CCSDS-interoperable implementation.
My 0.02 cents,
Tomaso
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blue book (131-B-6)
I approved, but I have a question..
One thing that got changed is that now a randomizer is required (it's a
shall). Does this make an existing implementation without a randomizer now
"non-conformant" by definition?
Let's say someone has a "product" (mission, software, a box, whatever) that
advertises "Coding is implemented in conformance with CCSDS 131.0-B-5" . Are
consumers of the product smart enough to go look and see if there's a new
issue (-6)? What if they say "CCSDS compliant coding" with no specification
number or issue. This is super common, in my experience, and experience says
"better go check the details". But with the recent influx of new people
doing spaceflight stuff, what's the implications of that - (Other than
hiring me or someone like me with experience as a consultant to help them
not step into the tarpit).
James Lux
Data Standards Program Manager
4200 Telecom Programs and Oversight
JPL
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