[CESG] Requesting CESG approval to drop the “CMC Poll for Agency Review"

Thu Apr 23 09:49:57 EDT 2026

Hi all,

Just a few notes on Erik’s comments:
The CMC has initially approved the project to create the book, so they have confirmed that they are behind the project. As such I do not see the need to re-check if they are still supporting this before going to Agency review. They can always “stop” the publication at the point of publication review should worst come to worst. But I would not see this as a serious possibility as well. In the end agencies are well represented in the working groups and I imagine that any concerns in that respect would be addressed during the editing phase.
I would also do not see a big possibility that an agency would boycott an agency review by rejecting the book (has this happened in the past?). It is true that Tom in the past has inquired with the review coordinators in case no RIDs have been received however I could imagine that this could be done autonomously by the system someone if needed but also we have to trust a bit in the review coordinators to execute their task.

In summary, while I do agree that we open the process to a potential problem that will now only come to light at publication review, I do believe that the benefits outweigh this since I do not think there is a very high likelihood of this occurring (but I am also ready to be educated by past events).

Cheers
Daniel

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Subject: Re: [CESG] Requesting CESG approval to drop the “CMC Poll for Agency Review"

Simon,

Overall, I am sympathetic to the idea.  But I am curious if you propose some sort of mechanics or process should an agency "not forward the proposed document for review within their agency".  Will this necessarily be conveyed to the CCSDS Secretariat?  In the past, during agency reviews, the Secretariat (read Tom Gannett) used to keep track of the agency review coordinators and would send out email reminders etc. that the agency review is coming to an end and that they need to supply any RIDs from the particular agency back to the overall review coordinator, etc.  Presumably in this case where the agency refuses to review the book, should there be some sort of rejection notice at the level of the agency back to the overall review coordinator? And if there are multiple agencies that reject the review then what is the point of the agency review? It may be that there is in fact some value in running the CMC review in parallel with the CESG review. Presumably with the CMC (and therefore the head of delegation for the agency) approving the agency review there then should not be downstream agency rejection of the review. I do wonder about this – more to the point, I have to wonder if CESG will be seen as sufficiently "authoritative" in launching agency reviews.

Best regards,
-Erik

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] Requesting CESG approval to drop the “CMC Poll for Agency Review"

Dear All,

This is request to get CESG approval to drop the “CMC Poll for Agency Review”. If CESG agrees then we will send a similar request to CMC as well. I believe that there is general acceptance to the proposal, but this email is trying to move forward in a formal way.

Brian,
I am not sure if this needs to go out as formal poll request, but In case it does, can you please initiate the request. Thanks

Following screen shot provides the process we intend to follow .

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Following screenshot shows the abstraction of current process and the “processing step (CMC Poll for Agency Review)” this request is seeking to drop.

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Best regards
Simon Singh
CCSDS SOIS Area Director
CCSDS SOIS-AP WG Chair
NASA/GSFC DTN Systems Engineer
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