[CESG] CESG-P-2021-02-005 Approval to release CCSDS 732.1-P-1.1, Unified Space Data Link Protocol (Proposed Pink Sheets, Issue 1.1) for CCSDS Agency review
CCSDS Secretariat
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Sat Feb 20 16:20:27 UTC 2021
Dear CESG Members,
Conditions for approval of CCSDS 732.1-P-1.1, Unified Space Data Link
Protocol (Proposed Pink Sheets, Issue 1.1) have been disposed to the
satisfaction of the AD(s) who voted to approve with conditions. The
Secretariat will now proceed with CMC polling to authorize release
for Agency review.
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From: Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:50 PM
To: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Cc: Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr; Kazz, Greg J (US 312B); Matt Cosby; Tom Gannett
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] SEA Conditions on 732.1-B USLP
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
Categories: Poll Condition Closure
Hi Gippo,
I am OK with the sec 4.1.1 changes as long as the abbreviations for TFDF etc are stated somewhere near
to where these longer names are defined. It is common practice in CCSDS to state the full name,
followed by the abbreviation on first use, and then to use the abbreviation thereafter.
The note you added seem clesr to me. If the rest of the guys are Ok with it, then I am as well.
Thanks, Peter
From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 11:05 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Gilles Moury <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, Greg Kazz <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov>, Matt Cosby
<matt.cosby at goonhilly.org>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] SEA Conditions on 732.1-B USLP
Thank you, Peter.
Just to be clear the improved readability concerns the change in Section 4.1.1 from the actual text
a) Transfer Frame Primary Header (4 to 14 octets);
b) Transfer Frame Insert Zone (integral number of octets);
c) TFDF (integral number of octets);
d) OCF (4 octets); and
e) FECF (2 or 4 octets).
TO
a) Transfer Frame Primary Header (4 to 14 octets, mandatory);
b) Transfer Frame Insert Zone (integral number of octets, optional);
c) Transfer Frame Data Field (integral number of octets, mandatory);
d) Operational Control Field (4 octets, optional); and
e) Frame Error Control Field (2 or 4 octets, optional).
The improved readability is achieved using the extended definition instead of the acronym.
For the NOTE to 4.1.1 we are not "leaving a mandatory field out of a list of mandatory items".
In the version in force the NOTE included the sentence:
Conditions for the presence of the Insert Zone, TFDF, OCF, and FECF are further discussed in
section 4 below.
While Insert Zone, OCF, and FECF are optional felds, the TFDF is not.
Therefore there are conditions for the presence of Insert Zone, OCF, and FECF while there are no
conditions for the presence of TFDF (is MUST be there).
A possible improvement could then be something as e.g.
While the Transfer Frame Primary Header and the TFDF are always present,
conditions for the presence of the Insert Zone, OCF, and FECF are further discussed in section 4
below.
However this is just my personal brainstorming not discussed with the other SLS/SLP guys.
Best regards
Gippo
From: "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Cc: "Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, "Kazz, Greg J (US 312B)" <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov>,
"Matt Cosby" <matt.cosby at goonhilly.org>, "Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Date: 17-02-21 18:55
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] SEA Conditions on 732.1-B USLP
Hi Gippo,
Thanks for the feedback. I am ok with the proposed changes.
That said, I am puzzled as to why leaving a definition that is used in the text out of a list of
definitions, and leaving a mandatory field out of a list of mandatory items improves
readability. In my mind it introduces ambiguity, and I believe that reinforcing these conditions
through appropriate repetition is a good thing.
If you all really feel strongly that this is not the case then remove them, but I think it is a mistake.
Peter
From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:04 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Gilles Moury <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, Greg Kazz <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov>, Matt Cosby
<matt.cosby at goonhilly.org>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] SEA Conditions on 732.1-B USLP
Dear Peter,
after SLS coordination with the SLP WG chairs you find here below the reply to your conditions.
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SEA AD Peter Shames APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS (state conditions that must be
satisfied)
There are a few issues, as identified in sec 2.1.2.4, sec 4.1.1, and sec 4.1.2.1 in the attached, that need
to be remedied. Otherise the changes are an improvement in clarity of the document, in particular
handling of truncated frames.
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Following changes are proposed
a. Section 2.1.2.4:
FROM: In Proximity-1
..
TO: COP-P
b. Section 4.1.1:
The abbreviations are removed to improve readability.
c. Section 4.1.1 NOTE:
TFDF is removed from the list because the field is mandatory and therefore there are no
conditions for its presence.
d. Sec. 4.1.2.1.1
FROM: non-truncated (see figure D-2)
..
TO: non-truncated (see figure 4-1)
e. Sec. 4.1.10.1 missing period at end of sentence
make a full stop.
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I hope this explanation will be sufficient to remove your condition and proceed to Agency Review.
Best regards
Gian Paolo
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