[CESG] Fw: DAI WG - Short Paper

Wed Mar 1 16:08:06 UTC 2017

FYI

and my views of the DAI request for CMC resolutions 

ciao
nestor

========================
David

I do not have any problems that the DAI WG sends the paper with the MOIMS 
ADs venue to the CMC withuot any revision of the CESG.

but the DAI WG can not ask for CMC resolutions that have to go before 
through CESG evaluation.

Architectural and parallel CCSDS / ISO reviews are CESG matters. 
Therefore, as CESG Chair I do not authorize the issue of these resolutions 
without the CESG agreement.

ciao
nestor 

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From:   "David Giaretta" <david at giaretta.org>
To:     "'CCSDS Secretariat'" <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>
Cc:     "'Ross, David\(HQ-CG000\)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.]'" 
<david.ross at nasa.gov>, "'Mike Kearney'" <kearneysolutions at gmail.com>, 
"'Garrett, John G.\(GSFC-690.1\)[Goddard Soccer League]'" 
<garrett at his.com>, <Mario.Merri at esa.int>, <brigitte.behal at cnes.fr>, 
"'Nestor Peccia'" <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>, <Wallace.S.Tai at jpl.nasa.gov>
Date:   28/02/2017 20:23
Subject:        RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

Dear David

Please find attached the updated paper for CMC in time for the 1st March 
deadline. As agreed we are simultaneously copying the document to MOIMS 
AD/Deputy AD and CESG Chair and Deputy Chair.

The last page has 2 proposed resolutions for CMC. We really regret that 
this was not provided in time for the CMC telecon in Feb because of the 
unexpected review.  Therefore, we would like to ask for an electronic CMC 
poll for these resolutions so that we do not have to wait for the June CMC 
meeting. The second resolution would be particularly helpful with our 
ongoing work with the ISO community.

Please confirm when this is distributed to CMC and whether the CMC poll 
has been arranged.

Regards

..David

From: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [
mailto:david.ross at nasa.gov] 
Sent: 07 February 2017 15:16
To: David Giaretta <david at giaretta.org>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; 'Mike Kearney' 
<kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer 
League] <garrett at his.com>; Mario.Merri at esa.int
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

Good morning David, 

I reached out to the CMC, and the CMC determined that they would like to 
await the MOIMS Are Director and Deputy Area Director?s review of the DAI 
WG?s submission and revise the submission date to 1 March 2017. 

For my own benefit, and your information, I will be sure to make sure that 
any future actions similar to this are clear on the review authority (when 
necessary). 

Thank you, 
-David

David Ross, MPA, PMP
ASRC Federal
ph.: 240-565-2231
email: David.Ross at nasa.gov

From: David Giaretta [mailto:david at giaretta.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:11 AM
To: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] <
david.ross at nasa.gov>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; 'Mike Kearney' <
kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer 
League] <garrett at his.com>; Mario.Merri at esa.int
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

Hi David

What is the status of the document now?

..David

From: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [
mailto:david.ross at nasa.gov] 
Sent: 01 February 2017 21:20
To: David Giaretta <david at giaretta.org>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; 'Mike Kearney' <
kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer 
League] <garrett at his.com>; Mario.Merri at esa.int
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

David, 

I understand, and I agree, the CMC will be informed of the request for the 
review. 

All the best, 
-David 

From: David Giaretta [mailto:david at giaretta.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 4:11 PM
To: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] <
david.ross at nasa.gov>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; 'Mike Kearney' <
kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer 
League] <garrett at his.com>; Mario.Merri at esa.int
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

Hi David

Our understanding was that this was DAI?s response to a direct request 
from CMC. Since this was a not a document on the standards track it would 
not need MOIMS AD review. We were therefore surprised when reviews were 
requested.

In addition since CMC wanted it by 1st Feb we assumed that this was to 
allow them adequate time to review it in time for their telecon on 13th. 

In any case I?m sure you will keep the CMC informed about any delays.

Regards

..David

From: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [
mailto:david.ross at nasa.gov] 
Sent: 01 February 2017 20:58
To: David Giaretta <david at giaretta.org>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; 'Mike Kearney' <
kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer 
League] <garrett at his.com>; Mario.Merri at esa.int
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

David, 

Thank you for providing this information. Before I am to submit this to 
the CMC, understanding Mario?s concerns about wanting to review it first. 
I?d like to understand from him what he would like to do regarding 
informing the CMC. 

Mario, 

Can you please advise what action you would like to take regarding the DAI 
WG presentation? Would you like to refrain from distribution at this time? 
I can draft an email for you to deliver to the CMC regarding your decision 
if you would like. 

Thank you, 
David Ross

David Ross, MPA, PMP
ASRC Federal
ph.: 240-565-2231
email: David.Ross at nasa.gov

From: David Giaretta [mailto:david at giaretta.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:52 PM
To: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] <
david.ross at nasa.gov>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; 'Mike Kearney' <
kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer 
League] <garrett at his.com>
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

Dear David

I attach the document as a PDF and also a PowerPoint show which 
illustrates the proposed architecture. Please confirm that you will 
forward these to the CMC.

For completeness I should note that the MOIMS AD reviewed the document and 
indeed he wanted further discussions about it but would have meant 
delaying the delivery to 1st March. 

Regards

..David

From: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [
mailto:david.ross at nasa.gov] 
Sent: 01 February 2017 19:01
To: Mike Kearney <kearneysolutions at gmail.com>; Garrett, John G. 
(GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer League] <garrett at his.com>; 'David Giaretta' <
david at giaretta.org>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

Perfect, 

Thank you Mike and all!

-David 

From: Mike Kearney [mailto:kearneysolutions at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:57 PM
To: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] <
david.ross at nasa.gov>; Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer League] 
<garrett at his.com>; 'David Giaretta' <david at giaretta.org>
Cc: 'CCSDS Secretariat' <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: RE: DAI WG - Short Paper

David:  Good question.  Reminder:  David Giaretta is the WG chair, John is 
deputy.  One of them will reply. 

   -=- Mike

Mike Kearney
Huntsville, Alabama, USA

From: Ross, David (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [
mailto:david.ross at nasa.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:45 AM
To: Garrett, John G. (GSFC-690.1)[Goddard Soccer League] <garrett at his.com>
Cc: CCSDS Secretariat <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>; Mike Kearney <
kearneysolutions at gmail.com>
Subject: DAI WG - Short Paper

Hi John, 

I just wanted to check in with you and the WG to find out if you were able 
to make progress on the below reproduced resolution from the CMC October 
Meeting? Highlighting is mine regarding the relevant request. 

Thank you in advance for the information. 

All the best, 
-David Ross

Resolution 2016-10-03: 
The CMC acknowledges that in today?s  Data Economy, space systems 
generating and transporting large amounts of relevant data;  be it science 
(GAIA is generating 50 GB/day) earth observation (Sentinel-2A generating 1 
TB/ h), navigation or telecommunication satellites,  constitute key assets 
for the Data industry.

In this context, standards supporting proper storage and preservation of 
data, open access to the space data, merging of data from different 
sources, analysis and processing big data and all related processes and 
mechanisms are of paramount importance.

Scientific communities are already for quite some time working nationally 
and internationally to define adequate standards for their data, be it 
astronomy, planetary exploration or earth observation.

The question is what should the CCSDS organization do and how should it 
position itself in the wake of such space data revolution and  how could 
the work done over the years to standardize data storage and archiving be 
leveraged at the service of the new paradigms.

In this context, and following the request of the DAI WG to the CMC for 
support, CMC would like to encourage the DAI WG to address the following 
questions within a short paper to be delivered to CMC by 1 February 2017:
1.        What is the current DAI roadmap and how does it make a valuable 
contribution to the data issue, taking into account what has already been 
produced including the overall worldwide efforts in this area?
2.        Taking into account that there are dedicated international 
organizations working on archiving and merging scientific data, astronomy 
data, as well as Earth data, what should be the role of CCSDS in general 
and that of the DAI WG in particular? 
3.        Is the long term data preservation of the housekeeping data 
properly addressed in these initiatives? Is there a need for developing 
this part of the data preservation?
4.        In this context, what would be the next project for the DAI WG 
in the future, should resources be available, and how would this project 
fit with the current CCSDS reference architecture and work plan?

David Ross, MPA, PMP
ASRC Federal
ph.: 240-565-2231
email: David.Ross at nasa.gov

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