[CESG] Fwd: RE: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review

Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Nestor.Peccia at esa.int
Fri May 29 18:05:41 UTC 2015


Read Erik's Mail discussing conditions about a Poll 
Take a Magnifier
Try to find Wallace or my name in the distribution list
Perhaps after the exercise you understand

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> On 29.05.2015, at 19:56, Shames, Peter M (312B) <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> 
> Ciao Nestor,
> 
> I'm confused.  Did you mean to say that the CESG Chairs (you and Wallace) are not included in the CESG at mailman email list, or were you asking that you wanted the CESG and all of the WG chairs to also be included, I.e. CESG-all at mailman?
> 
> As I understand it, ithe CESG at mailman email list includes all of the ADs, DADs, and the CESG chair and deputy.  If that is not the case we should fix it.
> 
> Thanks, Peter
> 
> 
> 
> From: Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2015 at 8:51 AM
> To: Tom Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org>
> Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
> Subject: Re: [CESG] Fwd: RE: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
> 
> Just for info to ADs
> Please include the CESG chairs in your mails. Otherwise we are blind
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 29.05.2015, at 17:46, Thomas Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org> wrote:
> 
>> ADs and DADs:
>> 
>> Conditions for approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services--RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review have been satisfied. The Secretariat will proceed with CMC polling.
>> 
>>> From: "Barkley, Erik J (3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> To: Kevin K Gifford <kevin.gifford at Colorado.EDU>, "Shames, Peter M (312B)"
>>>          <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Scott, Keith L." <kscott at mitre.org>
>>> CC: "Fink, Patrick W. (JSC-EV811)" <patrick.w.fink at nasa.gov>, "Barton,
>>>  Richard J. (JSC-EV811)" <richard.j.barton at nasa.gov>, Thomas Gannett
>>>          <tomg at aiaa.org>, Yuriy Sheynin <sheynin at aanet.ru>
>>> Subject: RE: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release
>>>   CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag  Encoding
>>>  Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 17:37:16 +0000
>>> 
>>> Kevin,
>>>  
>>> Apologies for the delay in responding. Thank you for the updates.  My conditions stated in the poll have been satisfied.  
>>>  
>>> I will note that I recognize the SANA registry considerations as essentially coming from Peter’s work in updating the overall SANA registration policy.  And I think a) it is good and proper to have this in a document about to go out for agency review and b) It will be interesting to hear what various agencies have to say about this policy and I would encourage various reviewers to really review this section as this represents a new policy in CCSDS re SANA considerations (vs the current laissez-faire policy). 
>>>  
>>> I look forward to an interesting review.
>>>  
>>> Best regards,
>>>  
>>> -Erik
>> 
>>> From: "Scott, Keith L." <kscott at mitre.org>
>>> To: Kevin K Gifford <kevin.gifford at Colorado.EDU>, "Shames, Peter M (312B)"
>>>          <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Barkley, Erik J (3970)"
>>>          <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> CC: "Fink, Patrick W. (JSC-EV811)" <patrick.w.fink at nasa.gov>, "Barton,
>>>  Richard J. (JSC-EV811)" <richard.j.barton at nasa.gov>, Thomas Gannett
>>>          <tomg at aiaa.org>, Yuriy Sheynin <sheynin at aanet.ru>
>>> Subject: RE: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release
>>>   CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag  Encoding
>>>  Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 23:56:23 +0000
>>> 
>>> Looks better to me; my conditions are satisfied.
>>>  
>>>                         --keith
>>>  
>>> From: "Shames, Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> To: Kevin K Gifford <kevin.gifford at Colorado.EDU>, "Barkley, Erik J (3970)"
>>>          <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Scott, Keith L." <kscott at mitre.org>
>>> CC: "Fink, Patrick W. (JSC-EV811)" <patrick.w.fink at nasa.gov>, "Barton,
>>>  Richard J. (JSC-EV811)" <richard.j.barton at nasa.gov>, Thomas Gannett
>>>          <tomg at aiaa.org>, Yuriy Sheynin <sheynin at aanet.ru>
>>> Subject: Re: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release
>>>   CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag  Encoding
>>>  Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 00:30:35 +0000
>>>    From: <Shames>, "Peter M (312B)" < peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Date: Monday, May 18, 2015 4:00 PM
>>> To: Kevin Gifford < Kevin.Gifford at colorado.edu>, "Barkley, Erik J (3970)" < erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Scott, Keith L." <kscott at mitre.org>
>>> Cc: "Fink, Patrick W. (JSC-EV811)" <patrick.w.fink at nasa.gov >, "Barton, Richard J. (JSC-EV811)" < richard.j.barton at nasa.gov>, Thomas Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org>, Yuriy Sheynin <sheynin at aanet.ru>
>>> Subject: Re: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> I concur with the RID resolutions that you have applied to this document.  It is acceptable to me for this document to be released for review.
>>> 
>>> Best regards, Peter
>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Kevin K Gifford < kevin.gifford at Colorado.EDU>
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:15 AM
>>> To: Peter Shames < peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, Erik Barkley < Erik.J.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>, Keith Scott <kscott at mitre.org>
>>> Cc: "Fink, Patrick W. (JSC-EV811)" <patrick.w.fink at nasa.gov >, Richard Barton < richard.j.barton at nasa.gov>, Tom Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org>, Yuriy Sheynin <sheynin at aanet.ru>
>>> Subject: Re: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>>  
>>> Dear Peter, Erik, Keith – 
>>>  
>>> Thank you for your time and expertise in providing the review of the SOIS Wireless WG RFID Tag-Encoding Red Book.  
>>>  
>>> Attached please find two documents detailing the WWG's responses and associated updates.  The WWG concurred with all of the specific comments.  The attached spreadsheet lists the reviewer's (your) critique and lists the WWG action to address the RID along with indicating the specific document pages updated in the second attachment which is a clean version of the document with all identified Review Items dispositioned.
>>>  
>>> Please let me know if the changes meet with your approval or if you have any remaining outstanding issues that need to be addressed.
>>>  
>>> Thanks again for your time in reviewing the SOIS Wireless WG RFID Tag-Encoding Red Book. 
>>>  
>>> Kevin
>>>  
>>> From: Thomas Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:31 AM
>>> To: Kevin Gifford < gifford at rintintin.colorado.edu>
>>> Cc: "Fink, Patrick W. (JSC-EV811)" <patrick.w.fink at nasa.gov >, "Barton, Richard J. (JSC-EV811)" < richard.j.barton at nasa.gov>, " Jean-Francois.Dufour at esa.int" < Jean-Francois.Dufour at esa.int>, " peter.shames at jpl.nasa.gov" < peter.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, " Erik.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov" < Erik.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Subject: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>>  
>>> Dear Kevin et al.:
>>> 
>>> The CESG poll to approve release of the SOIS RFID Tag Red Book concluded with conditions. The conditions are stated below--I have attached the SEA AD's mark-up (881x1r0_CESG_Approval-SEA.pdf).
>>> 
>>> I have also attached the Word file (881x1r0_CESG_Approval.doc) used to create the PDF file used in the poll. Please use it to make changes in response to conditions.
>>> 
>>> Resolution of the conditions should be negotiated directly with the authors of the conditions (CCed) and reported back to the CESG.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2015-03-006 Approval to release CCSDS 881.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface Services-RFID Tag Encoding Specification (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
>>> Results of CESG poll beginning 29 March 2015 and ending 15 April 2015:
>>> 
>>>                  Abstain:  3 (37.5%) (Merri, Behal, Calzolari)
>>>  Approve Unconditionally:  3 (37.5%) (Suess, Barton, Scott)
>>>  Approve with Conditions:  2 (25%) (Shames, Barkley)
>>>  Disapprove with Comment:  0 (0%)
>>> 
>>> CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
>>> 
>>> Peter Shames (Approve with Conditions): This document still needs some work, particularly in the areas relating to the use of SANA and the guidance to the SANA operator.
>>> 
>>> The data structure is also probably more awkward than it needs to be, but that appears to be a legacy limitation.
>>> 
>>> please see the attached mark-up.
>>> 
>>> Erik Barkley (Approve with Conditions): Condition 1: For this type of recommendation an ICS should be stated to help ensure a good agency review -- it will be useful to know what is mandatory and what is optional in the ID (probably all of it but there is no direct statement of that)
>>> 
>>> Condition 2: it will be very helpful for agency reviews to know what the policy is for assigning database IDs in SANA -- note that claiming the SANA Registry as the administrator is insufficient as current CCSDS practice is that the recommendation that defines a registry must, necessarily, identify its management policy.
>>> 
>>> Keith Scott (Approve Unconditionally): I'm willing to let this go through to Agency Review, but the 'To Be Supplied' sections in the document (PICS, Patent Considerations) are questionable. I think the CESG should discuss whether such (admittedly slightly) incomplete documents should be put out for Agency Review.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Total Respondents: 8
>>> No response was received from the following Area(s):
>>> 
>>> SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS:  Approved with Conditions
>>> PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION:            Generate CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
>>> 
>>> Thomas Gannett
>>> +1 443 472 0805
>> Thomas Gannett
>> +1 443 472 0805
>> 
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