[CESG] Re: [Cesg-all] Re: New CESG Polls

Wed Mar 12 10:14:05 EST 2014

Gippo,

I understand your concerns and could agree to a ed due date, but not earlier.

In your notes you said something really cryptic about:

note that this occurrence of the books only refers to approved standards, therefore it shall be clear that
- DTN approved standards
- Optical Communication Standards
when approved, will be future subjects for Issue 4.

Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about in reference to those books and "Issue 4".  Just what were you trying to say?

Regards, Peter

From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>>
Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:43 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org>>, "cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>" <cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>
Subject: Re: [Cesg-all] Re: New CESG Polls

Peter,
        I understand your complaint.
I support your request, however please keep also in mind that two out of four are corrigenda,
My only recommendation is to keep a deadline that will allow comments (specially for the two green books) to be available before the Springs meeting to allow (if required) announcement and proper involvement in the discussion of the relevant WG members.

Note that for CESG-P-2014-03-004 (Approval to publish CCSDS 130.0-G-3, Overview of Space Communications Protocols - Green Book, Issue 3) the responsible WG is SLS-SLP but coordination with other WGs in SLA may be required.   (*)
Note also that for CESG-P-2014-03-003 (Approval to publish CCSDS 230.2-G-1, Next Generation Uplink - Green Book, Issue 1) there is no NGU WG Meeting planned so it is likely the matter will have to be discussed at the Joint RFM/C&S/SLP/NGU/OCM.

Having said this, I think that Friday 28 March is really the last useful date, but an intermediate occurrence would be more practical specially in case of "serious" comments.
Therefore, if acceptable to everybody, I would proposed a deadline a little earlier as e.g, Tuesday 25 March or Wednesday 26 March.

Best regards

Gian Paolo

(*) Just to prevent comments, note that this occurrence of the books only refers to approved standards, therefore it shall be clear that
- DTN approved standards
- Optical Communication Standards
when approved, will be future subjects for Issue 4.

From:        "Shames, Peter M (312G)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>
To:        CCSDS Secretariat <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>, "cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>>,
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Date:        11/03/2014 22:04
Subject:        Re: [Cesg-all] Re: New CESG Polls
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Requesting a poll of four documents with less than 2 weeks of lead time is just not acceptable.  As much as I would like to see these porogress I think at least 3 weeks is needed.

Please extend the poll until at least 28 March.

Regards, Peter

From: Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>
Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:43 PM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org>>
Subject: [Cesg-all] Re: New CESG Polls

Dear CESG members,

The message below, which was sent last Friday (March 7) but which appears not to have been delivered until today (March 11), states an erroneous closure date for the subject polls.  The correct closure date is 21 March 2014 (the calendar reminder attached to the original message is correct).

Considering that, as a consequence of the late delivery of the announcement, the polling period has technically been reduced by as many days as delivery of the message was delayed, an argument could be made for extending the polls. Any requests for extension must include cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org> in the TO field.

Regards,
Tom Gannett

At 06:18 PM 3/7/2014, CCSDS Secretariat wrote:
Dear CESG Members,

Four new CESG polls have been posted to the CWE:

- CESG-P-2014-03-001 Approval to publish CCSDS 133.1-B-2 Cor. 2, Technical Corrigendum 2 to CCSDS 133.1-B-2, Issued October 2009
- CESG-P-2014-03-002 Approval to publish CCSDS 702.1-B-1 Cor. 1, Technical Corrigendum 1 to CCSDS 702.1-B-1, issued September 2012
- CESG-P-2014-03-003 Approval to publish CCSDS 230.2-G-1, Next Generation Uplink (Green Book, Issue 1)
- CESG-P-2014-03-004 Approval to publish CCSDS 130.0-G-3, Overview of Space Communications Protocols (Green Book, Issue 3)

These polls can be accessed via the following link:

http://public.ccsds.org/sites/cwe/cesg/Polls/default.aspx

The closure date for these polls is 24 May 2013.

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