[Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions / Last suggestion for Yellow Books web page?

[Shames, Peter M (312G)]

Hi Laura,

How about this (paraphrased from the CCSDS Org & Proc doc):

CCSDS Record documents (Yellow Books) may be reports, meeting records, or interoperability test plans and reports (Reports & Records), and they may also document normative CCSDS internal processes, procedures, and controlling guidelines (CCSDS Normative Procedures) .

The underlined titles should link to those two sections, with those new titles.  This work for everyone?

Cheers, Peter



From: CCSDS Tech Support <ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org<mailto:ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org>>
Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:42 PM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>>
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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions / Last suggestion for Yellow Books web page?

All,
Is someone is willing to write up new text for the top of the “Existing” Yellow book page?
http://public.ccsds.org/publications/YellowBooks.aspx
What it would do is call reference to both the “Management” and “Technical” sections on the page, while using an HTML bookmark to take the user there.
It would be very similar to the way we link to “Orange Books” on the Area based publication pages.
http://public.ccsds.org/publications/SIS.aspx
Thanks,
—Laura

From: <Shames>, "Peter M (312G)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 at 4:30 PM
To: Brian Oliver <ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org<mailto:ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org>>, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>>
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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions / Last suggestion for Yellow Books web page?

Sorry Laura, but I think that is exactly the wrong approach.  We really have two different sets of Yellow Books, some that are CCSDS management / administrative publications, that are normative on CCSDS itself, and others that are various flavors of reports and plans.  This distinction is described in the CCSDS Procedures (a Yellow Book and normative on all of CCSDS).

With this approach that distinction is lost, so I would not recommend it at all.

Thanks, Peter


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Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:21 AM
To: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>>, Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions / Last suggestion for Yellow Books web page?

All,
It appears that having two separate categories may by the wrong approach.
For the sake of simplicity, I have created a “hidden” page where all 11 Yellow books fall under one category.
http://public.ccsds.org/publications/YellowBooksNew.aspx
Does anyone have an issue replacing this version with the current one?
Thanks,
—Laura

From: "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>>
Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 at 3:13 AM
To: "Shames, Peter M (312G)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions / Last suggestion for Yellow Books web page?

Dear All,
        I just checked http://public.ccsds.org/publications/YellowBooks.aspx and it looks to me that the splitting between the two categories is somehow hard to see.
So I would recommend a clearer separation (see #1 in attached snapshot) and having a very visible remark  (e.g. a pointer in position 2) that thre is also a second category (not for importance) of Yellow Books.


Regards

Gippo

PS Pklease forgive me if this is already ongoing but I could not read all mails :o)

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