[Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions

Thu Jan 16 15:30:40 EST 2014

Hi Laura,

You have that just right.  Is it do-able?

Thanks, Peter

From: CCSDS Tech Support <ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org<mailto:ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org>>
Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:20 PM
To: Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>
Cc: Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>>, Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Erik Barkley <Erik.J.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Erik.J.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions

Tom,
Brian asked me to take a look into this, and I must confess that I am a little confused.
After reviewing the e-mail chain below, it appears that there is several actions.  Can you confirm?
http://public.ccsds.org/publications/YellowBooks.aspx
1) CCSDS 313.0-Y-1  - Move this book the the “Management” Section on the Yellow Book page.
2) CCSDS B20.0-Y-2 - Move this book to the “Technical” Section on the Yellow Book page.
3) Fix the PDF icons in the “Management” section.  They appear to be missing.
Thanks,
—Laura

From: Thomas Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM
To: "Shames, Peter M (312G)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>, "Barkley, Erik J (3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Cc: "Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>" <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>>, Brian Oliver <briano at aiaa.org<mailto:briano at aiaa.org>>, "cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>>
Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions

Peter:

Actually, what is going on on the Web site is simply a sort by document number, with a label identifying the Axx books as management (according to our numbering scheme).  I am sure there was never any intention to organize books in the list according to their content.

I fully expect Brian to respond that trying to make a 3xx appear at the bottom of the list with the Axx books is going to screw up the sort big time. If you think it's that important, we should probably renumber the SANA YB to begin with A.

Tom

At 02:45 PM 12/17/2013, Shames, Peter M (312G) wrote:
Thanks.  That'll fix it as far as I am concerned.  And good catch on that other YB, I saw it but didn't want to go there.

Peter

From: Tom Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org<mailto:tomg at aiaa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:25 AM
To: Erik Barkley < Erik.J.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Erik.J.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Peter Shames < peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Cc: Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>>, Brian Oliver <briano at aiaa.org<mailto:briano at aiaa.org>>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org> >
Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Poll with conditions

Peter:

I am a long-time formality enthusiast, and I am as fond of bureaucracy as anyone, but I suspect all that was needed was for someone to advise Brian that it is a management book. It's probably my fault for not so categorizing it when I delivered it.

Brian:

While we're on the subject, CCSDS B20.0-Y-2 is not a management book.

Tom

At 02:00 PM 12/17/2013, Barkley, Erik J (3970) wrote:
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Peter,

Thank you.   It’s something of a mystery to me as to why it was not originally “classified” as a management book – ie put in this section of the webpage for yellow books.  This clarifies the issue for me and I no longer have a condition for the poll.

-Erik

From: Shames, Peter M (312G)
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:06 AM
To: Barkley, Erik J (3970)
Cc: Brian Oliver; cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>; Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>
Subject: Re: [CESG] Poll with conditions

Erik,

In regard the specific clause in the request that the SANA Yellow Book, CCSDS 313.0-Y-1 (issued July 2011), "be re-classified as a CCSDS Management Publication", what I was asking was that it be given the same status as the other Yellow Books that are treated as CCSDS Management Publications, such as the Organization and Processes for the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems. CCSDS A02.1-Y-3 , July 2011 or the CCSDS Publications Manual. CCSDS A20.0-Y-3, December 2011.

We have many Yellow Books, but many of them are just test reports.  These are all listed in the "Technical Yellow Books" section of the CCSDS web site located at http://public.ccsds.org/publications/YellowBooks.aspx.  What I am specifically requesting is that the SANA YB be moved into the section of this CCSDS Yellow Book page that is titled "Management Yellow Books".  This is where the Org & Proc and Pubs manuals are located.  No other changes are necessary, but this does signal the official "management book" status of the SANA YB.

Is that acceptable?

Thanks, Peter

From: Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> >
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:11 AM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org> >
Cc: Brian Oliver <briano at aiaa.org<mailto:briano at aiaa.org>>
Subject: [CESG] Poll with conditions

Peter
Are you aware of Erik's condition to  the poll ?
The website can only be updated once the condition is solved.
ciao
nestor
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2013-11-002
Changes to the CCSDS Website Regarding SANA
Results of CESG poll beginning 14 November 2013 and ending 28 November 2013:

Abstain: 0 (0%)
Approve Unconditionally: 5 (83%) (Peccia, Taylor, Calzolari, Shames, Scott)
Approve with Conditions: 1 (17%) (Barkley)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Erik Barkley (Approve Unconditionally): Please clarify what is meant by
"a CCSDS Management Publication².
I assume by "SANA YB", the resolution is referring to CCSDS 313.0-Y-1
(issued July 2011) ? If so,
is this not already a procedure manual for SANA and as such is this not
already a "Management Publication" ?
I agree with the intent of the poll, but I want to be clear as to what
re-classification implies.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Update website after conditions
are met
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