[Secretariat] Re: [CESG] Joining CCSDS Mailing Lists vs. Code of conduct

[Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int]

So if I understand well the approach should be:
1) Admission to mailing list: FREE if endorsed somehow because of 
interest, support to an Agency, etc.
2) Participation to meetings: read and sign the code of conduct 
3) Provision of CWE ID: read and sign the code of conduct 

If this is OK for everybody, then it is OK for me as well.

Ciao

Gippo



From:
"Kearney, Mike W. (MSFC-EO01)" <mike.kearney at nasa.gov>
To:
"Shames, Peter M (JPL-313B)[Jet Propulsion Laboratory]" 
<peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" 
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>, "CESG --        CCSDS-Engineering Steering 
Group" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
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"ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org" <ccsds_techsupport at aiaa.org>
Date:
31/07/2013 17:31
Subject:
RE: [Secretariat] Re: [CESG] Joining CCSDS Mailing Lists vs. Code of 
conduct



We routinely tell external folks (observer agencies, etc.) that they can 
participate and contribute without joining the meeting.  Restricting 
someone from electronically participating unless they attend a meeting is 
really not a good idea.  Besides, the CMC has encouraged the CESG/WG 
Chairs to do more work between meetings and have less dependence on 
meetings.   This suggestion takes the opposite approach. 
 
We ask attendees to sign up to the code of conduct whenever they get a CWE 
ID and whenever they register for a meeting.  I think also requiring it to 
also read and sign the code of conduct before being admitted to a mail 
list is hitting them over the head with it a bit too much.  Anyone that 
signs up for a mail list will also sign up for a CWE ID (profile) so I 
think that is adequate assurance of their compliance with the code of 
conduct. 
 
   -=- Mike
 
Mike Kearney
Lead Technology Manager
Mission Operations Laboratory
NASA MSFC EO-01
+1-256-544-2029
 
"Good ideas are not adopted automatically. They must be driven into 
practice with courageous impatience."
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From: secretariat-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org [
mailto:secretariat-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org] On Behalf Of Shames, Peter M 
(313B)
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:08 AM
To: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int; CESG -- CCSDS-Engineering Steering Group
Subject: [Secretariat] Re: [CESG] Joining CCSDS Mailing Lists vs. Code of 
conduct
 
Hi Gippo,
 
Interesting point, but I worry that requiring meeting attendance first may 
have the effect of stifling particpation.    After all, how better to 
learn if you are really interested (in between meetings) than by looking 
at the work plans, charters, presentations and docment drafts that are 
only accessible in the CWE?
 
For SEA I tend to ask for background, interests, and agency endorsements 
for any newcomers, especially those who are not part of a member agency. I 
think we could easily solve the "Code of Conduct" problem by having the 
Secretariat send out a copy of that every time they add a new user access 
(by the current way).
 
Regards, Peter
 
 
 
 
 
From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:51 AM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [CESG] Joining CCSDS Mailing Lists vs. Code of conduct
 
Dear All, 
        recently we had a request for joining a mailing list by a person 
that did not participated to past meeting of that group.
In this sphere, I had some discussion with Gilles and we agreed that it 
may be good to agree about a common approach.

Nowadays each mailing list owner can approve a new subscription request 
based on individual criteria (e.g. ask reason for interest, ask 
endorsement by an agency, etc).
However, after the recent discussions for the "Code of conduct" it looks 
that it may be better to allow subscribing to mailing list only to persons 
that have attended a meeting (i.e. have accepted the CCSDS Code of 
conduct). 
In this way this could also be a valid condition for getting CWE login 
(i.e. access to CWE private).

What do you think about it? 

Nestor, up to yopu to see whether this should be in the agenda for the mid 
term telecon or for San Antonio.

Regards 

Gian Paolo & Gilles 

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