[Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Can we belay the CESG Poll for SSI?

Barkley, Erik J (3170) erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Feb 19 10:40:20 EST 2013


Nestor,

The CSS Area resolution and request for  poll stand.  The subject of this poll was the SSI (Solar System Internet) Architecture GB review, not the CSA (Cross Support Architecture) GB.

Best regards,

-Erik
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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Can we belay the CESG Poll for SSI?

Nestor:

The Area resolution I received requesting a poll for the document came from the SIS Area.

Regards,
Tom

At 10:12 AM 2/19/2013, Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> wrote:

I believe we need to review the CESG poll governance
If the SIS and SLS ADs can govern a poll submitted by the CSS AD
Something is going wrong
Ciao
Nestor
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On 19.02.2013, at 15:06, "Scott, Keith L." <kscott at mitre.org<mailto:kscott at mitre.org>> wrote:


Tom,

Thank you and my apologies for not getting to you sooner.  The initial reconstituted SISG meeting was last Thursday.

Tom: I concur with your recommendation; please withdraw the CESG poll for the SSI Architecture Document.  Can you please send me a copy of the document so that I can provide it to the SISG?  (it seems to have already disappeared off the CESG polls page…)

Gian Paolo: You are of course correct in that the CESG review copy should be distributed to the SISG.

                        --keith


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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] RE: [CESG] Can we belay the CESG Poll for SSI?

Tom,        I do concur with your proposal.
Keith,        I would propose distributing to SISG the CESG approval version as this is anyhow the closest to an ec=ventual publication.
Regards
Gian Paolo

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Keith:

I was not aware that there was a "parallel" review going on; and since I had to reorganize some of the material in the book for conformance with CCSDS style, the CESG approval version differs from the version under SISG review.  I think the appropriate thing to do is to withdraw the CESG poll and wait until a final version of the document is delivered to the Secretariat before starting another CESG poll.  Doing so will almost certainly delay CCSDS publication until after the spring meetings, however.

Tom

At 09:28 AM 2/19/2013, Scott, Keith L. wrote:

I thought of that (or, preferable from *my* point of view, “Approve with Conditions” with the conditions being to resolve issues with the SISG).   J

                       --keith

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Subject: Re: [CESG] Can we belay the CESG Poll for SSI?

Keith,
       I do support your request and I would be in favor of canceling the current poll and restarting it after the SISG comments are finalized.
If needed we can simply DISAPPROVE WITH COMMENT   this poll with the same effects  :o)

Best regards

Gian Paolo

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Secretariat,

The SSI Architecture Green Book is a deliverable to the IOAG and is currently being reviewed by the revived Space Internetworking Strategy Group (SISG) review team.

Can we reschedule (or maybe just extend) the polling period on the SSI Architecture Green Book until the SISG review has had a chance to comment on the document?  This would allow for any comments to be incorporated as part of the CESG review process.  In practice, the SISG will have reviewed the document by mid-March, so an SSI Architecture poll that ends at the end of March (i.e. delay or extend by about a month) would be useful.

                       --keith



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