[CESG-All] Recent CESG Poll Result

Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de
Mon Apr 13 03:12:08 EDT 2026


Dear Clemens,

 

As already shared in my message to Jean-Luc, I don’t disagree with the rationale, but I don’t think it is fair to block orange books that have been approved already 1-2 years ago and that are in their final phase now. As far as SIS area is concerned, there are a few orange books from the DTN area that are quite important for Lunanet that need to be published once the final version will be available.

In my opinion, we should rather agree on the fact that from now on new orange books projects should be de-prioritized, so that areas and WGs are aware of a possible longer publication schedule when they plan to go for a new one.

 

Regards,

 

Tomaso

 

From: Clemens Heese <Clemens.Heese at esa.int> 
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2026 9:05 AM
To: de Cola, Tomaso <Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>; erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov; Singh, Somendra {Simon} (GSFC-5820) <simon.singh at nasa.gov>; Jean-Luc.Issler at cnes.fr; Felix Flentge <Felix.Flentge at esa.int>
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Subject: Re: Recent CESG Poll Result

 

Dear Tomaso,

 

I asked Jean-Luc to raise the issue, so we can discuss it in the CESG alongside further orange books.

I believe CCSDS in its current funding situation should focus on what makes CCSDS special:

 

Deriving prototyped standards from specifications.

 

The prototyping and consensus finding is the essential part distinguishing CCSDS from anyone, just putting a specification on the website.

 

Therefore, we should do blue books exclusively at the moment.

 

Regards,

 

Clemens / SLS-AD

 

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Subject: Re: [CESG-All] Recent CESG Poll Result

Dear all,

 

Some comments about your points.  <mailto:Felix.Flentge at esa.int> @Felix Flentge as rapporteur of this book can also provide more clarifications:

 

 <mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> @Barkley, Erik J (US 343J): My impression is that your comments goes more in the direction of what typically happens in yellow books supporting the publication of blue books. It is a very valuable remark, but my understanding is that the “CCSDS holy bible” does not request such a detailed verification description for orange books.

 <mailto:simon.singh at nasa.gov> @Singh, Somendra {Simon} (GSFC-5820): Actually Annex C of the present version already includes details about the implementation from ESA used as reference for the book here. Were you expecting mode details about the implementation?

 <mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler at cnes.fr> @Issler Jean-Luc: I understand your concern but I don’t agree with your proposition since there is a bunch of orange books going to be submitted for CESG publication approval in the next 3-6 months, which are very important for LunaNet and alike missions. Delaying or even stopping their publication would be very detrimental. Furthermore, a publication priority list has been already agreed at CESG level to avoid the tech editors team to be overloaded with editing of books of lower priority.

 

Regards,

 

Tomaso

 

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Subject: [CESG-All] Recent CESG Poll Result

 

CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2026-03-002 Approval to publish CCSDS 734.6-O-1, Custody Transfer and Compressed Bundle Status (Orange Book, Issue 1)

Results of CESG poll beginning 2026-03-24 and ending 2026-04-07:


Agency

Results

Conditions


SIS-AD

APPROVE UNCONDITIONALLY

	

SLS-DAD

APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS (state conditions that must be satisfied)

​As we have severe budget constraints, this year even more than last year (down 50% at ESA and NASA; down 30% at CNES), we should concentrate on getting only blue books out. We should avoid publishing orange and green books, even if they have passed the WGs to not overload the editors. This condition shall be discussed in the next CESG meeting.


SOIS-AD

APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS (state conditions that must be satisfied)

​Please add description of current or planned implementations, even if they don't implement the whole book.


SEA-AD

APPROVE UNCONDITIONALLY

	

CSS-AD

APPROVE UNCONDITIONALLY

Not a condition -- just comments: 1) it would have been good to see a more formal test report with test cases and results indicated; 2) it would also be good to have see the ESA prototype racked up against the PICS.  

Total Respondents: 5

Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Approve with Conditions 
Proposed Secretariat Action: Setup CMC Poll once condtions have been met.

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