[Cesg-all] Results of CESG Polls closing 12 May 2022
CCSDS Secretariat
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Fri May 13 21:31:11 UTC 2022
CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2022-04-001
Approval to release CCSDS 901.3-R-1, Functional
Resource Model (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review
Results of CESG poll beginning 28 April 2022 and ending 12 May 2022:
Abstain: 0 (0%)
Approve Unconditionally: 2 (50%) (Barkley, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 2 (50%) (Merri, Aguilar Sanchez)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Mario Merri (Approve with Conditions):
1) Section 1.3 "Scope" states that the scope is
limited to IOAG service cat 1 and 2.
Then Section 2.2.1 "FUNCTIONAL RESOURCES AS
ABSTRACTIONS OF REAL RESOURCES" reads:
"FRs are abstract representations of the
functionality needed to provide space
communication and tracking services, defined at a
level of granularity sufficient to specify the
configuration parameters, monitored parameters,
and notifiable events associated with that functionality.
FRs exist to represent such information as it
applies to a cross support interface. If a
processing function does not have unique
monitored parameters, notifiable events, or any
configuration parameters that need to be set
(possibly through configuration profiles),
queried, or reconfigured (via real-time control
directives), then it does not have an FR to
represent it. It should be noted that only one of
these facets needs to be present in order for a
function to need to be represented by an FR."
It should be clarified in the text that the FRs
shall be limited to hw/sw that is immediately and
directly related to communication and shall not
be used for abstract representation of other
devices onboard or on the ground, e.g. a Camera
or a Gyro.... for such devices MO services should
be the prime choice for abstract representation
of the interface. This is consistent with the so called "London agreement".
2) It should be also clarified in the text
(Section 1.3 Scope?) that, when it goes on-board
even for the RF elements, the aspects of TM/TC
and operations in general should be handled
through MO M&C services rather than using FRM for
monitored parameters, notifiable events, or any
configuration of those devices. This is
consistent with CCSDS 371.0-G-1 APPLICATION AND SUPPORT LAYER ARCHITECTURE
Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez (Approve with Conditions):
Positively impressed with the organisation, depth
and detail of this draft standard. Will review it
carefully during Agency Review. Nevertheless, a
couple of minor editorials (will not use the PID form):
-Ref [6]: There is a very recent issue 4 (April 2022);
- Page 2-5, paragraph b): the terms 'channel
bits' shall be replaced by 'symbols'; on the next
sentence the term 'bits' shall be replaced by 'symbols';
- Page 2-5, paragraph c): the term 'bits' shall be replaced by 'symbols'.
Jonathan Wilmot (Approve
Unconditionally): Document is really for agency
review. May submit comments during agency review process.
Total Respondents: 4
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SEA
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2022-04-002
Approval to publish CCSDS 141.10-O-1, Optical
High Data Rate (HDR) Communication—1550 NM (Orange Book, Issue 1)
Results of CESG poll beginning 28 April 2022 and ending 12 May 2022:
Abstain: 2 (33.33%) (Merri, Duhaze)
Approve Unconditionally: 3 (50%) (Aguilar Sanchez, Moury, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 1 (16.67%) (Barkley)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Erik Barkley (Approve with Conditions):
I was unable to confirm good information re
licensing of DVB-S2. The document indicates "S2
Licensing" with a US address and email address
for obtaining a license. Googling for S2
licensing turns up a press release from
2008. There appears to be no DNS records for
"S2licensing.com". Googling the phone number
listed in the document indicates it to be the
office of "Bayside Law" with a different street
address than listed in the document. Further
searching tends to indicate licensing being done
via DTVG licensing (see
https://www.sisvel.com/licensing-programs/digital-video-display-technology/dvb-s2/patent-owners)
among others.
My request is that the information be checked --
my concern is that the CCSDS document, albeit
experimintal, may not be providing correct
information should an organization choose to implement this standard.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SEA
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2022-04-003
Approval to release CCSDS 504.0-P-1.1, Attitude
Data Messages (, Issue 1.1) for CCSDS Agency review
Results of CESG poll beginning 28 April 2022 and ending 12 May 2022:
Abstain: 0 (0%)
Approve Unconditionally: 4 (80%) (Barkley, Merri, Duhaze, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 1 (20%) (Aguilar Sanchez)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Erik Barkley (Approve
Unconditionally): Minor commentary/question
only -- the document looks good, quite ready for agency review.
I am curious if the Abstract Event Defintion
(CCSDS 902.13-M-1) was considered for this version of the document.
Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez (Approve with
Conditions): MInor editorial suggestion.
Unfortunately, the upload of the corresponding
PID file does not work for this reviewer. Hence,
I am pasting the content of the PID file hereafter.
CESG POLL ITEM DISPOSITION (PID) INITIATION FORM
AREA PID NUMBER: SLS
SUBMITTING AREA: SLS
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REVIEWER'S NAME: I. AGUILAR SANCHEZ
E-MAIL ADDRESS: ignacio.aguilar.sanchez at esa.int
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DOCUMENT NUMBER: CCSDS 504.0-P-1.0
DOCUMENT NAME: Attitude Data Messages
DATE ISSUED: April 2022
PAGE NUMBER: D-1 PARAGRAPH NUMBER: N/A
PID SHORT TITLE: KVN acronym definition
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DESCRIPTION OF REQUESTED CHANGE: (Use From: "..." To "..." format)
ANNEX D
From:
KVN Keyword = Value Notation
To:
KVN 'Keyword = Value' Notation
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CATEGORY OF REQUESTED CHANGE:
Technical Fact ___ Recommended ___ Editorial _X_
NOTES:
TECHNICAL FACT: Major technical change of sufficient magnitude as to
render the Recommendation inaccurate and unacceptable if not
corrected. (Supporting analysis/rationale is essential.)
RECOMMENDED: Change of a nature that would, if incorporated, produce
a marked improvement in document quality and acceptance.
EDITORIAL: Typographical or other factual error needing correction.
(This type of change will be made without feedback to submitter.)
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SUPPORTING ANALYSIS:
The acronym is described in 6.7.1 as per proposed
change ('Keyword = Value' Notation).
It seems the most accurate description found in the document.
The Publications Manual (5.3.3.6) requires
agreement with the definition found in text.
However, it is unclear to this reviewer if such
description is compatible with the Publications Manual.
Can the character ' be included in an acronym definition?
If possible, would suggest to change.
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DISPOSITION:
Total Respondents: 5
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SEA
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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