[Cesg-all] Results of CESG Polls closing 14 September 2021
CCSDS Secretariat
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Wed Sep 15 17:53:46 UTC 2021
CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-001
Approval to publish CCSDS 883.0-B-1, Spacecraft
Onboard Interface ServicesHigh Data Rate
Wireless Proximity Network Communications (Blue Book, Issue 1)
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 3 (50%) (Merri, Duhaze, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 3 (50%) (Shames, Aguilar Sanchez, Moury)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Peter Shames (Approve with
Conditions): There are a number of issues with
this document that must be addressed. They are
in the set of PIDs in the attached zip file.
Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez (Approve with
Conditions): See SLS DAD conditions.
Gilles Moury (Approve with
Conditions): Reference [39] should point more
specifically to the ITU regulations relative to
the protection of the Shielded Zone of the Moon
(SZM), since it is used in §2.4.3 and §3.2 to adress specifically the SZM.
To this end, this reference should be complemented as follows:
[39] Space Services. Article 22 in Articles -
Section V: Radio Astronomy in the Shielded Zone
of the Moon - Vol. 1 of Radio Regulations.
Edition of 2016. 4 vols. Geneva: ITU, 2016.
Jonathan Wilmot (Approve
Unconditionally): Please consider removing the
Gateway mission reference and using a more
generic phrase like orbital/surface crewed space
station. In general, standards should not
reference specific in development missions
Also gateway/Gateway is used for the networking
functions. A Gateway mission reference could be confusing.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
CSS
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-002
Approval to release CCSDS 502.0-P-2.1, Orbit Data
Messages (Pink Book, Issue 2.1) for CCSDS Agency review
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 6 (100%) (Barkley, Merri,
Duhaze, Shames, Aguilar Sanchez, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 0 (0%) Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Peter Shames (Approve Unconditionally): I
did not check all of the new registries listsed
in Annex B, but the few new ones I looked for
were not in either the candidate registries nor
in the SANA beta set. They were in an unidentified Beta2 set and seem ok.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved Unconditionally
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate CMC poll
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-003
Approval to publish CCSDS 141.1-M-1, Atmospheric
Characterization and Forecasting for Optical Link
Operations (Magenta Book, Issue 1)
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 4 (66.67%) (Merri, Duhaze, Aguilar Sanchez, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 2 (33.33%) (Barkley, Shames)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Erik Barkley (Approve with
Conditions): General Comment: The book does a
great job identifying the instrumentation needed,
the data to be collected, and use case scenarios.
Questions:
1) Why not make the informative XML schema
normative? As CCSDS practice to address
establishment of a capability for atmospheric
characterization suitable for forecasting in
support of optical communiation, it seems that
some format for exchanging such characterization
and forecasting data is also needed to completely define the best practice.
2) Alternatively, perhaps the exchange format
(XML Schema definition or equivalent) could be
developed as separate CCSDS bluebook and
referenced here? (This would seem to be on par
with the NAV WG NDM recommendation). Or are
there some industry standards that could be utilized here?
Condition: Please address the lack of normative data exchange format.
Peter Shames (Approve with Conditions): As
much as I would like to be able to approve this
recommended practice I find it confusing and to
be a somewhat exasperating collection of
different styles. It does have aspects of a
recommended / best practice, and it also reads,
in that regard, like a set of requirements. At
the same time, it could actually include a
formalized XML spec for interoperably exchanging
data, but what is provided is something that
looks like an incomplete example that is
non-normative. Probably a separate document that
formalizes this is called for. It could register
these OCS as stations in the Service Site &
Aperture registry, but it does not even mention
SANA. Finally, and this is a nit, it talks
exclusively about space to ground communications
and seems, thereby, to rule out ground to space.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-004
Approval to publish CCSDS 132.0-B-3, TM Space
Data Link Protocol (Blue Book, Issue 3)
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 5 (83.33%) (Barkley, Duhaze, Shames, Aguilar Sanchez, Moury)
Approve with Conditions: 1 (16.67%) (Wilmot)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Jonathan Wilmot (Approve with
Conditions): 2.2.3.6 Virtual Channel Frame (VCF)
Service and 2.2.3.9 Master Channel Frame (MCF)
Service, This service is made available to
trusted users who are certified implies an
undefined trust and certification process. An
alternate and more secure design would be that
the VCF/MCF service itself reject user frames
that violate the operational integrity of the
space link. It is not clear why the standard had
to include a note about not having errors in the
design/implementation and then not having the
service check inputs for correctness. Checking
inputs for correctness is typically a software
requirement and secure coding practice.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-005
Approval to publish CCSDS 232.0-B-4, TC Space
Data Link Protocol (Blue Book, Issue 4)
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 6 (100%) (Barkley, Duhaze,
Shames, Aguilar Sanchez, Moury, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 0 (0%) Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Peter Shames (Approve Unconditionally): I
like the added clarity provided re the order of
processing of SDLS and COP functions.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved Unconditionally
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate CMC poll
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-006
Approval to publish CCSDS 732.0-B-4, AOS Space
Data Link Protocol (Blue Book, Issue 4)
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 5 (83.33%) (Barkley, Duhaze, Shames, Aguilar Sanchez, Moury)
Approve with Conditions: 1 (16.67%) (Wilmot)
Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Jonathan Wilmot (Approve with
Conditions): 1) 2.2.3.6 Virtual Channel Frame
(VCF) Service and 2.2.3.7 Master Channel Frame
(MCF) Service, This service is made available to
trusted users who are certified implies an
undefined trust and certification process. An
alternate and more secure design would be that
the VCF/MCF service itself reject user frames
that violate the operational integrity of the
space link. It is not clear why the standard had
to include a note about not having errors in the
design/implementation of the service user and not
having the service check inputs for
correctness. Checking inputs for correctness is
typically a software requirement and secure coding practice.
2) 3.2.6 AOS TRANSFER FRAME "2 Unlike TM
Transfer Frames " should include a reference
to 132.0-B-2.2 TM SPACE DATA LINK PROTOCOL, or remove the note.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed
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CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2021-08-007
Approval to publish CCSDS 732.1-B-2, Unified
Space Data Link Protocol (Blue Book, Issue 2)
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 August 2021 and ending 14 September 2021:
Abstain: 0 (0%) Approve
Unconditionally: 6 (100%) (Barkley, Duhaze,
Shames, Aguilar Sanchez, Moury, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions: 0 (0%) Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
Jonathan Wilmot (Approve
Unconditionally): Managed parameter names and
units should not be informal. Machine parsable
names, data types and ranges should be provided.
Some CCSDS standards provide managed parameter in XML, json, ... formats.
I do not want to hold up this document but hope
all CCSDS documents can move toward a more formal
definition in the future to improve
interoperability of the management and configuration of CCSDS protocols.
Total Respondents: 6
No response was received from the following Area(s):
SIS
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved Unconditionally
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate CMC poll
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