[Cesg-all] Notes from CESG webex on 21st March 2017

[Nestor.Peccia at esa.int]

Dear all,
Please find below the notes of the CESG webex held on 21st March 2017
nestor
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AGENDA
CESG Actions still open 
Document Status Queue
Polls with conditions not yet resolved
ESA request to CMC to keep Telerobotics WG in dormant status
New proposed DAI WG project including parallel ISO reviews: Is this a pro 
or a con ?
Approval of recommended text (see below) to amend the Procedures Yellow 
Book - to provide criteria for joining the working group mailing lists. 
(regarding external requests for individuals with no sponsoring agency.) 
Web info on recently completed reviews (including the issue of what will 
be stored and sent to the WG and who can get access to these inputs and 
when
OMG Liaison: RFI on Vocabularies, Glossaries, Ontologies ?
AOB

CESG Actions still open 
Action CMC-A-2014-11-01 Peter Shames was requested to draft a formal 
memorandum from CCSDS to ISO/TC 20/SC14 (Space Systems and Operations) to 
describe the coordination needed on RASDS. Ensure that SC13 is referenced 
in the draft memorandum. Revised due date to Spring 2017. 
Action CMC-A-2016-10-12 The CMC asks the CESG Chair, Nestor Peccia, to 
find ways within the CESG to improve the technical quality of documents. 
Due Date - Spring 2017 Technical Meetings
Action on ADs to update the Area on-line strategic Plan
Due Date: Dec 2016
SLS, CSS, SIS have updated their plans. MOIMS, SOIS and SEA have still to 
update their plans.
Document Status Queue
CCSDS 732.1-R-2, Unified Space Link Protocol (Red Book 2) It is under 
Agency Review
CCSDS 522.2-R-0, Mission Operations?Mission Data Product Distribution 
Services (Proposed Red Book) 11/15/2016 Tom to clarify
CCSDS 524.2-B-0, Mission Operations?Message Abstraction Layer Binding to 
TCP/IP Transport and Split Binary Encoding (Draft Blue Book) 1/25/2017 
CCSDS 902.1-B-0, Cross Support Service Management?Simple Schedule Format 
Specification (Draft Blue Book) 7/30/2015
CCSDS 880.0-G-2.1, Wireless Network Communications Overview for Space 
Mission Operations (Draft Green Book) 3/29/2016 After 1 year it shall get 
highest priority. Tom to clarify
CCSDS 140.1-G-0, Real-Time Weather and Atmospheric Characterization Data (
Draft Green Book) 4/7/2016 After ca. 1 year it shall get highest priority. 
Tom to clarify
CCSDS 413.1-G-0, Simultaneous Transmission of GMSK Telemetry and PN 
Ranging (Draft Green Book) 6/27/2016 After ca. 1 year it shall get highest 
priority. Tom to clarify
Polls with conditions not yet resolved
CCSDS 522.1-B-0, Mission Operations Monitor & Control Services (Draft Blue 
Book)   New expedite Agency Review to be initiated
CCSDS 524.3-R-0, Mission Operations?Message Abstraction Layer Binding to 
HTTP Transport and XML Encoding (Proposed Red Book) 1/25/2017  Conditions 
being resolved
ESA requested to CMC to keep Telerobotics WG in dormant status
CESG agrees to keep the Telerobotics WG in dormant mode.
New proposed DAI WG project including parallel ISO reviews: Is this a pro 
or a con ?
DAI WG has proposed 2 CMC resolutions, but the CESG Chair out them on hold 
because considers that they deserve a discussion at CESG level
The CMC recognizes the notional architecture as proposed by the DAI WG as 
a good basis for planning their future work in the digital archive arena 
ADs to analize the architecture and give feedback during the next CESG 
meeting.
The CMC recognizes that for the work of the Digital Archive Ingest Working 
Group, it is important for the ISO participation to be encouraged during 
the CCSDS Agency Review phase, in order to avoid extensive delays and 
rework in later ISO review phases. The CMC also recognizes that it is 
critically important to support this work for the Digital Preservation 
community much broader than the nominal participation of the CCSDS space 
agencies. The CMC therefore resolves to express support for the inclusion 
of the ISO community, and resolves to commit to an inclusive and 
transparent review process for the future DAI WG projects in standards for 
Digital Preservation.
CESG to discuss this item in the next CESG meeting
Approval of recommended text (see below) to amend the Procedures Yellow 
Book - to provide criteria for joining the working group mailing lists. 
(regarding external requests for individuals with no sponsoring agency.) 
Pg 5-2, Sec 5.1.5.4 
From: 
5.1.5.4 Official CCSDS E-mail Lists 
The Secretariat shall maintain an e-mail list server and provide moderated 
announcement and discussion e-mail lists for all CCSDS organizational 
units, including WGs and BOFs. A Web interface shall be provided for 
access to list archives. 
The e-mail lists maintained by the Secretariat shall be the official CCSDS 
e-mail lists and shall be used for all official CCSDS correspondence 
distributed via e-mail to CCSDS  organizational units. The Secretariat 
monitors, filters, and virus-scans all e-mail sent to CCSDS e-mail lists 
to remove SPAM and messages that contain viruses. 
To: 
5.1.5.4 Official CCSDS E-mail Lists 
The Secretariat shall maintain an e-mail list server and provide moderated 
announcement and discussion e-mail lists for all CCSDS organizational 
units, including WGs and BOFs. A Web interface shall be provided for 
access to list archives. 
The e-mail lists maintained by the Secretariat shall be the official CCSDS 
e-mail lists and shall be used for all official CCSDS correspondence 
distributed via e-mail to CCSDS  organizational units. The Secretariat 
monitors, filters, and virus-scans all e-mail sent to CCSDS e-mail lists 
to remove SPAM and messages that contain viruses. 
Access to the working email lists shall be limited to individuals who are 
members of the CCSDS Working Groups or CCSDS leadership and who are 
approved participants in a Working Group (see 5.2.6.4 Participation).  
Working Groups may, at their discretion, request creation of "WG-info" 
mailing lists for outreach that is broadly open to the public, but these 
shall not be used for normal Working Group operation. 
And on pg 5-9, sec 5.2.6.4 
From: 
5.2.6.4 Participation 
Working Group participation is generally limited to WG members; however, 
occasional participation by ad-hoc technical experts may take place. 
Working group members must be affiliated with member or observer agencies, 
or liaison or associate organizations. Any WG participant who does not 
meet these criteria must be endorsed by an authorized representative from 
a member or observer agency. 
To: 
5.2.6.4 Participation 
Working Group participation is generally limited to WG members; however, 
occasional participation by ad-hoc technical experts may take place. 
Working group members must be affiliated with member or observer agencies, 
or liaison or associate organizations. Any WG participant who does not 
meet these criteria must be endorsed by an authorized representative from 
a member or observer agency. 
Working Group participants should register with the CCSDS online 
Collaborative Work Environment (CWE) via the "Request Login" link (
http://cwe.ccsds.org/ReqLogin.aspx).  Approved registration enables access 
to CWE private working group areas and is required for working group 
meeting attendance.  CWE registrants must be approved by a sponsoring 
agency or the Secretariat.?  

CESG concludes that 
NP to check with the Secretariat the way to improve the request for 
membership and CWE account and the associated sponsorship. First step is 
to become a member and the second one is to get a CWE account.
NP to inform the WG Chairs that they need to check their WG membership 
classifying them for the WG or WG-info lists
NP to ask the Secretariat for the mailing list of all WGs
YB shall specify the approving authority at Agency level (CMC ? ). This 
has to be discussed with the CMC

Web info on recently completed reviews (including the issue of what will 
be stored and sent to the WG and who can get access to these inputs and 
when
Gippo has prepared a presentation addressing the issue.(see attachment)
Brian Oliver provided a draft URL for restoring information about closed 
review. CESG appreciated the approach showed in that draft URL .
Suggestion is to remove column allowing to retrieve only NASA RIDs, which 
is misleading. 
Can the NASA system be extended to all Agency RIDs.? Wallace to check with 
James and the Secretariat. Agencies RIDs can not be inserted one by one. A 
batch process is needed.
or Can we wait until the new RID System is deployed ? When ?
To be discussed at the next CESG meeting

AOB
CESG Chair has suggested to discuss the OMG - CCSDS liaison during the 
next face-2-face CESG meeting.

Logistics for San Antonio: 
David Ross distributed the allocation of rooms to the WGs, SLS SLP and SIS 
DTN WGs have some overlaps, which needs to be solved.
CESG meeting will last from 08:30 until,18:00 hrs. SLS AD has to leave on 
Monday around 3 pm. SLS DAD will attend the whole meeting.
P. Liebrecht (NASA) will address the Opening Plenary (Monday 8th May)

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