[Cesg-all] [Secretariat] Working Group chairs that have yet to attend the CCSDS Boot Camp

[Brian Oliver]

FYI – This got discarded…I will fix the mailing list, so this doesn't happen again.

Brian


Mike:

I think the Boot Camp is a great idea, and agree with it being a requirement for book editors (I've been to it twice, and learned something new each time).  I wish the boot camp had been in existence when I worked on my first few standards documents... it would have helped me greatly.

I think the scheduling of the Boot Camp is problematic (as several others have pointed out).  In the course of this email conversation a number of good ideas have been expressed to address the scheduling problem.  Hopefully some of these ideas can find favor with the CESG/CMC and be implemented.

Regards,
David



From: <Kearney>, "Mike W. (MSFC-EO01)" <mike.kearney at nasa.gov<mailto:mike.kearney at nasa.gov>>
Date: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [Cesg-all] [Secretariat] Working Group chairs that have yet to attend the CCSDS Boot Camp

Enrico, the problem is that even with battlefield certification, many of those CCSDS standards and handbooks have been submitted to the Secretariat in very substandard condition.  Even very recently, the problem continues.  It is a simple and efficient thing to write the books correctly in the first place.  It is a difficult and expensive problem to have the secretariat continue to rewrite the books routinely.  That is the problem we are trying to solve.

The problem is compounded because it appears that the working group chairs and book editors are very reluctant to read the procedures and the publications manual.  From statements some boot camp attendees have made, an alarming number of document writers have never looked at the publications manual.  We created the boot camp in part to spoon-feed the most critical guidelines to the chairs and book editors, and also to insure that they are aware that the publications manual exists and should be followed.

We will continue to encourage boot camp participation, perhaps repeatedly, until the submitted documents improve to a minimal level of quality.   We know that it is difficult to find time to attend the boot camp, but we are sure our excellent WG chairs and document writers can solve that minor problem.

   -=- Mike

Mike Kearney
Lead Technology Manager
Mission Operations Laboratory
NASA MSFC EO-01
+1-256-544-2029

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Subject: RE: [Cesg-all] [Secretariat] Working Group chairs that have yet to attend the CCSDS Boot Camp

Nestor,

I believed that chairs/book editors that have generated a number of CCSDS standards and handbooks should be considered as having obtained the Boot Camp certification in the battlefield.

Regards, Enrico



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RE: [Cesg-all] [Secretariat] Working Group chairs that have yet to        attend the CCSDS Boot Camp

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Dear all,

As response to the comments received on the Boot Camp attendance,

I would like to note that all the recommendations / ideas will be discussed during the CESG meeting on 19th April 2013

ciao
nestor
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