[Cesg-all] PRP A9-20 Request for CESG Review
Thomas Gannett
tomg at aiaa.org
Mon Nov 23 11:48:58 EST 2009
Jean-Luc:
The milestone in the Framework reflects Secretariat turnaround time
in addition to the actual review period. In the case of TM Channel
Coding, the actual period from input to the Secretariat to the
end-of-review due date is well beyond the allotted time because of
repeated changes introduced to the document after initial input.
I should also point out that the default milestones were arrived at
though discussions within the Secretariat and are based on actual
procedures rather than expectations of WG chairs and ADs.
Best regards,
Tom
At 11:27 AM 11/23/2009, Jean-Luc.Gerner at esa.int wrote:
>Tom,
>When one wants to create a new project in the CWE, he gets instructions for
>the milestones. These include 3-months for a first agency review. In many
>cases, the review is rather simple and nobody objects to your proposed
>deviation to a reduced 2-months review. As Area Director, I request that the
>rule be followed in this case.
>
>Best regards
>Jean-Luc Gerner
>TEC-ETN
>Tel: +31 71 565 4473
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> Thomas Gannett
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>Jean-Luc:
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>The CWE does not dictate how we do business, but it should accurately
>reflect real procedures. Please supply the link(s) to the erroneous
>information and I will have it fixed.
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>Thanks,
>Tom
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>At 10:55 AM 11/23/2009, Jean-Luc.Gerner at esa.int wrote:
> >Tom,
> >I am not talking of the Procedures Manual, which you claim dates back the
> >times of papers, but of what is currently on the CWE and reuqested from WG
> >chairs and Area Directors.
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> >I suggest we apply the rules currently in force and discuss at the next
> >meeting whether these rules should be amended.
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> >best regards
> >Jean-Luc Gerner
> >TEC-ETN
> >Tel: +31 71 565 4473
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> > Thomas Gannett
> > <tomg at aiaa.org>
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> > Gannett <TomG at aiaa.org>
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> >Jean-Luc:
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> >The three-month review period is something we observed when we were
> >doing hard-copy distribution. Since electronic distribution started
> >we have observed a two month-review period (same review period less
> >the four weeks it used to take to ship books from Maryland to
> >Europe). Therefore the review period for TM Synchronization and
> >Channel Coding is actually slightly longer than normal to allow for
> >the holidays.
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> >The Procedures Manual has obviously not been updated for many years,
> >but the next version will reflect current practices.
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> >Since you indicate you actually have no reason to change from the
> >timeline, there is no reason to consider changing the due date.
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> >Best regards,
> >Tom
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> >At 09:07 AM 11/23/2009, Jean-Luc.Gerner at esa.int wrote:
> > >The CMC suggested timeline foresees that the initial formal agency review
> > >will be open for 3 months. It also indicates that if one plans to deviate
> > >from the suggested timeline, one should indicate the reason for the
>change.
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> > >Actually, I have no reason for a change from the timeline, except that
>given
> > >that XMAS holidays are in between, I propose to extend the timeline by two
> > >weeks.
> > >
> > >Given the time of issuance of the review request, 17 November, please move
> > >the due date to 1st March 2010.
> > >
> > >Thank you.
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> > >
> > >Jean-Luc Gerner
> > >TEC-ETN
> > >Tel: +31 71 565 4473
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> > > CCSDS Rapporteur
> > > <tomg at aiaa.org>
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> > > CESG Review
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> > >Control Number: PRP A9-20
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> > >The following draft CCSDS Recommended Standard has been placed on
> > >line for CCSDS Agency review:
> > >
> > > CCSDS 131.0-P-1.1. TM Synchronization and Channel Coding.
> > > Pink Book. November 2009.
> > >
> > >DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: The Recommended Standard for TM
> > >Synchronization and Channel Coding contains specifications to be used
> > >by space missions on synchronous communications links. The current
> > >draft update adds new sections on Low-Density Parity-Check (LDPC)
> > >codes and security, updates other coding sections for uniformity of
> > >presentation, and corrects and updates erroneous and obsolete material.
> > >
> > >The due date for receipt of review comments by the Review Coordinator
> > >is 2010-2-1. Area Directors and WG/BOF Chairs may submit review
> > >comments directly to the CCSDS Review Coordinator. More information
> > >is available at the Web site identified below.
> > >
> > >The review document, in Portable Document Format (PDF), and
> > >associated review materials are available for downloading at the
> > >following location:
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> > > http://public.ccsds.org/review/
> > >
> > >NOTES
> > >
> > >1 Per CMC Action Item CMC-A-2007-10-05, agency reviewers are reminded to
> > > review for compliance with the CCSDS Publications Manual as well as
> > > technical content.
> > >
> > >2 Per CESG Resolution CESG-R-2008-10-006, the CESG no longer conducts
> > > pre-Agency-review reviews but is instead expected to participate in
> > > Agency reviews when they are announced.
> > >
> > >
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