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Dear Jean-Luc, Martin - </div>
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Thank you for your informational e-mail.</div>
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I am in agreement that this issue is now at the CESG level.</div>
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My expectation is the CESG, notably Peter Shames, Marc Ignacio-Sanchez, and Gilles Moury will discuss and strive to resolve.</div>
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It may be that the SOIS-WIR WG will need to provide information and/or host a meet-up with the cognizant CESG members.</div>
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Thanks again.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 26, 2021 4:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org <sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [SOIS-WIR] TR: [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">Dear Kevin, dear Wireless Working Group Members.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">First of all, we would like to express deepest thanks to you, Kevin, for your excellent work which allowed the Wireless Working Group to find a consensus closing the 883 red book
Agency Review. The works of our WG mainly concerned the “spectrum text” is currently proposed to be removed, and due to this, we consider to have lost our consensus.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">Technically, it is wrong to state that this wireless blue book deals only</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F4E79"> with communication protocols (layer
2 and above) and therefore does not need to include </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F4E79">spectrum allocation requirements and constraints</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F4E79">, sinc</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">e
this blue book specify the use of terrestrial commercial wireless standard in space. Those commercial standards include RF layer and spectrum bands. Deferring most of spectrum considerations to RF&modulation blue book is not appropriate. In addition, the specific
issues related to protection of Radio Astronomy in the Shielded Zone of the Moon, and of the SFCG communication and navigation bands, are additional reasons for not removing the “spectrum text” proposed to be out of scope.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">We therefore propose the publication request to be put on hold by waiting the issue to be discussed at appropriate levels and then solved.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">Thank you</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">Our best regards</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt; color:#1F497D">Jean-Luc Issler (CNES) Martin Drobczyk (DLR)</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> SOIS-WIR <</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sois-wir-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
<b>De la part de</b> Issler Jean-Luc<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 25 octobre 2021 10:56<br>
<b>À :</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">;
</span><a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">; Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
CCSDS Secretariat <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [SOIS-WIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">I put Gilles Moury (in CC) in the Loop (with the attachments of my message bellow to our Wireless Working Group)</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Very best regards</span></p>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> dimanche 24 octobre 2021 17:21<br>
<b>À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">;
</span><a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">; Shames,
Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
CCSDS Secretariat <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Ray Wagner <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 23, 2021 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">
<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">>;
</span><a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">
<</span><a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">>;
Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> TR: [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US">
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Dear CCSDS Wireless Working Group,</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">I would like to share some informations in case everyone in our WG would be not fully aware of, regarding 883 standard submited to CESG.
I include you in the diffusion list Ignacio, since you participated to some Agency Review discussions in our WG. These informations are contained in the correspondance bellow and in the attachements.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">As you could see, the majority of our agency review updated texts are proposed to be removed, that is most of the spectrum texts. As a
reminder, this is not “proposed CNES text” as written bellow, but text proposed by our overall Working Group* to process the CNES Agency Review RIDs (that is most of the RIDS of the Agency Review). There is therefore not any more consensus in our WG for the
moment.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">To better check the importance of the texts which are proposed to be removed, you could see the attached 3 CESG RIDS of Peter Shames proposing
to remove these full texts (these RIDS are available on CWE, as all the CESG RIDS, on the form of PIDs). In the attached RIDs, I added my simple personnal opinion just to share it in our WG for transparency, knowing these issues are now delt by CESG and then
by CMC.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Thank you for your consideration of this message; see you soon.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Very best regards</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Jean-Luc</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 22, 2021 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; CCSDS Secretariat <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span lang="EN-US">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>;
Shames, Peter M (JPL-312B)[JPL Employee] <</span><a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><span lang="EN-US">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; Teodomante Sylvain <</span><a href="mailto:Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US">Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>;
Wagner, Raymond S. (JSC-EV811) <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span lang="EN-US">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">CESG Review of CCSDS-883-0-R-0 mandated removing any and all spectrum recommendations sans the statement, "For spectrum allocation missions must coordinate with the responsible
entities (SFCG, ITU)".</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">-- The SOIS-WIR WG must adhere to the CESG guidance per CCSDS rules</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">-- All of the previously proposed CNES text regarding spectrum requirements has been removed</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">As a result, and per CESG guidance/mandates, all inserted CNES verbiage concerning spectrum allocation requirements and constraints is out of scope for CCSDS-883-0-R-0.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 21, 2021 10:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">>; Teodomante Sylvain <</span><a href="mailto:Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US">Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Dear Kevin,</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">May I kindly remind you to answer to our question bellow ?</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Thank you very much; VBR</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 4 octobre 2021 05:15<br>
<b>À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">I confirm I have received your update proposal. Please let me review and discuss with NASA and CSA this upcoming week.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Thanks.</span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Dear Kevin,</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Sorry for the blank/empty part in my E-mail</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">The CNES update proposal is in the joint extract of the 883 Blue Book</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">What do you think about this proposal please ?</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">VBR</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 1 octobre 2021 16:33<br>
<b>À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From your email below I cannot "see" any text (it is blank/empty) for Page 2-11, Page 3-3, Page 3-4, Page 3-5.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Can you "cut-and-paste" the associated paragraphs and
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Thanks!</span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 12:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span>
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<p class="x_xxxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Kevin,</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">We had discussions in CNES, and wondered it would be not too late to propose in the upcomming
<b>883 Blue Book</b> the replacement of the word “<b>communication</b>” by the word “<b>communication and navigation</b>” or “<b>communication/navigation</b>”, in the following paragraphs of the book. This would be consistent with SFCG 32-2R2 which allocate
the concerned band for these 2 services.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">What do you think about this request please ? Sorry for this late question; Have a nice day.</span></p>
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