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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 23, 2021 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org <sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org>; Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int <Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int>; Kevin K Gifford <kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> TR: [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Dear CCSDS Wireless Working Group,</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">I would like to share some informations in case everyone in our WG would be not fully aware of, regarding 883 standard submited to CESG.
I include you in the diffusion list Ignacio, since you participated to some Agency Review discussions in our WG. These informations are contained in the correspondance bellow and in the attachements.</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">As you could see, the majority of our agency review updated texts are proposed to be removed, that is most of the spectrum texts. As a
reminder, this is not “proposed CNES text” as written bellow, but text proposed by our overall Working Group* to process the CNES Agency Review RIDs (that is most of the RIDS of the Agency Review). There is therefore not any more consensus in our WG for the
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">To better check the importance of the texts which are proposed to be removed, you could see the attached 3 CESG RIDS of Peter Shames proposing
to remove these full texts (these RIDS are available on CWE, as all the CESG RIDS, on the form of PIDs). In the attached RIDs, I added my simple personnal opinion just to share it in our WG for transparency, knowing these issues are now delt by CESG and then
by CMC.</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Thank you for your consideration of this message; see you soon.</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Very best regards</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">Jean-Luc</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">*for exemple, the full text proposed to be removed in PID SEA 009 883 is a text from DLR, which allowed to our WG to find consensus on
this part</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:#1F497D">.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 22, 2021 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <<a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>; CCSDS Secretariat <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>>; Shames, Peter M (JPL-312B)[JPL Employee] <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>;
Teodomante Sylvain <<a href="mailto:Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr">Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr</a>>; Wagner, Raymond S. (JSC-EV811) <<a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</a>>; Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Dear Jean-Luc - </span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">CESG Review of CCSDS-883-0-R-0 mandated removing any and all spectrum recommendations sans the statement, "For spectrum allocation missions must coordinate with the responsible
entities (SFCG, ITU)".</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">-- The SOIS-WIR WG must adhere to the CESG guidance per CCSDS rules</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">-- All of the previously proposed CNES text regarding spectrum requirements has been removed</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">As a result, and per CESG guidance/mandates, all inserted CNES verbiage concerning spectrum allocation requirements and constraints is out of scope for CCSDS-883-0-R-0.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <<a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 21, 2021 10:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>; Teodomante Sylvain <<a href="mailto:Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr">Sylvain.Teodomante@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Dear Kevin,</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">May I kindly remind you to answer to our question bellow ?</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Thank you very much; VBR</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Jean-Luc</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 4 octobre 2021 05:15<br>
<b>À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <<a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Moury Gilles <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>; Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">I confirm I have received your update proposal. Please let me review and discuss with NASA and CSA this upcoming week.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Thanks.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Kevin</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <<a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span> <span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Dear Kevin,</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Sorry for the blank/empty part in my E-mail</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">The CNES update proposal is in the joint extract of the 883 Blue Book</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">What do you think about this proposal please ?</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">VBR</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Jean-Luc</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 1 octobre 2021 16:33<br>
<b>À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <<a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Moury Gilles <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>; Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From your email below I cannot "see" any text (it is blank/empty) for Page 2-11, Page 3-3, Page 3-4, Page 3-5.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Can you "cut-and-paste" the associated paragraphs and
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Thanks!</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"> Issler Jean-Luc <<a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr">Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 12:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <<a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Moury Gilles <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> A proposal for CCSDS 883 standard</span> <span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxxmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Kevin,</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">We had discussions in CNES, and wondered it would be not too late to propose in the upcomming
<b>883 Blue Book</b> the replacement of the word “<b>communication</b>” by the word “<b>communication and navigation</b>” or “<b>communication/navigation</b>”, in the following paragraphs of the book. This would be consistent with SFCG 32-2R2 which allocate
the concerned band for these 2 services.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">What do you think about this request please ? Sorry for this late question; Have a nice day.</span></p>
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<p>Best regards<span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p>Jean-Luc<span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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