<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Kevin,</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">For the benefit

of those in copy within this exchange, I have just provided a positive

response to your e-mail on the remaining ESA RIDs and its proposed disposition.</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Kind regards,</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Ignacio</span>

<br><img src=cid:_1_0111F6DC0111F23C002D97FEC125871B style="border:0px solid;"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa"><b>Ignacio

Aguilar Sánchez</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa">Communication

Systems Engineer</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa">Electrical

Engineering Department</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa">European

Space Research and Technology Centre<br>

Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299, 2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands</span>

<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa">Tel.

(31) 71 565 5695</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa">Fax

(31) 71 565 5418</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#4f4f4f;font-family:NotesEsa">Email:

ignacio.aguilar.sanchez@esa.int<br>

</span><a href=www.esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:NotesEsa">www.esa.int</span></a>

<br>

<br>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:

       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Kevin

K Gifford" <kevin.gifford@colorado.edu></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:

       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Issler

Jean-Luc" <Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr>, "sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"

<sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org>, "Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int"

<Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:

       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov"

<peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, "d.gratton@sympatico.ca"

<d.gratton@sympatico.ca>, "Girard, Ralph (ASC/CSA)" <ralph.girard@canada.ca>,

"Ray Wagner" <raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov>, "Kevin K

Gifford" <kevin.gifford@colorado.edu></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:

       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">21/07/2021

18:36</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:

       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:

[SOIS-WIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the CWE</span>

<br>

<hr noshade>

<br>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear Jean-Luc - </span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">There is one final

RID from ESA's Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez that the SOIS-WIR WG is awaiting

confirmation from ESA/Ignacio that the RID has been resolved.</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">As an FYI, the ESA

RID regards updating the SOIS-WIR Green Book with "Table 1-1: Data

Rates and Ranges" from CCSDS-883-0-R-0.</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">@Ignacio: Can you

please respond as to whether the ESA RID has been dispositioned to ESA's

satisfaction?</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks.</span>

<br>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span>

<br>

<hr>

<br><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b> SOIS-WIR

<sois-wir-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Issler Jean-Luc

<Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr><b><br>

Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:04 AM<b><br>

To:</b> sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org <sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org>;

Kevin K Gifford <kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><b><br>

Cc:</b> peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>;

d.gratton@sympatico.ca <d.gratton@sympatico.ca>; Girard, Ralph (ASC/CSA)

<ralph.girard@canada.ca><b><br>

Subject:</b> Re: [SOIS-WIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>

<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">I

hope that you are all going well.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">May

I know if after your agreement Kevin hereafter for our red book (version

V2bis), and CNES confirmed agreement bellow, decision has effectively been

made by our WG to  submit the 883 red book to CESG review ? </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Have

a nice day and a nice summer continuation</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <b><br>

Envoyé :</b> samedi 10 juillet 2021 16:29<b><br>

À :</b> 'Kevin K Gifford' <kevin.gifford@colorado.edu>; 'Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de'

<Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de>; 'sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org' <sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org>;

'chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov' <chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov>; 'Ray

Wagner' <raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov>; 'Stephen Braham' <stephen_braham@sfu.ca>;

'Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA)' <brian.cascarano@canada.ca>; 'Shames,

Peter M (US 312B)' <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>; 'Jonathan Wilmot'

<jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><b><br>

Cc :</b> 'Ni, David (JSC-EV)[Jacobs Technology, Inc.]' <david.ni-1@nasa.gov>;

'Girard, Ralph (ASC/CSA)' <ralph.girard@canada.ca>; 'd.gratton@sympatico.ca'

<d.gratton@sympatico.ca><b><br>

Objet :</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Thank

you so much to have accepted CNES-V2bis proposed updates, and a great thank

also to DLR, CSA, NASA for your benevolence vis a vis RA in the SZM.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">I

fully agree that we submit the red book as such for CESG review, thanks

to you Kevin.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Have

a nice week-end and a nice summer</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Envoyé :</b> vendredi 9 juillet 2021 19:06<b><br>

À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc :</b> Ni, David (JSC-EV)[Jacobs Technology, Inc.] <</span><a href="mailto:david.ni-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>david.ni-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Girard, Ralph (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:ralph.girard@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>ralph.girard@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:d.gratton@sympatico.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>d.gratton@sympatico.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Objet :</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Jean-Luc - </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">I

believe there may have been some misunderstanding between CNES-V2 and CNES-V3

versions and I apologize for any associated confusion.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

bottom line is that your latest version, CNES-V2bis, is acceptable.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Sincere

thanks to CNES and especially to you, Jean-Luc, for your significant effort

and willingness to work to resolve the RIDs.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">I

propose that the SOIS-WIR WG considers the CNES RIDs resolved for CCSDS-883-0-R-0

and that as SOIS-WIR WG Chair I forward the document for CESG review.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>Jean-Luc:

Do you concur to the above proposal on the behalf of CNES?</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks

again.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Friday, July 9, 2021 10:04 AM<b><br>

To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc:</b> Ni, David (JSC-EV)[Jacobs Technology, Inc.] <</span><a href="mailto:david.ni-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>david.ni-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Girard, Ralph (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:ralph.girard@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>ralph.girard@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:d.gratton@sympatico.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>d.gratton@sympatico.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:d.gratton@sympatico.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>d.gratton@sympatico.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Thank

you for your update Kevin. The last proposal from CNES was “version 3”

and not “version 2” (incomplete). “Version 3” is also on CWE.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">I

am sorry that there is no consensus from CNES side with your current proposal,

since the main issue, the biggest threat to radio astronomy in the Shielded

Zone of the Moon, is not solved by this proposal. This current proposal

removed (from “version 3”) the normative paragraph proposed by CNES to

protect the 2483.5-2500 MHz com +nav SFCG band from </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>Wifi</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">

non-SFCG wireless transmissions in 2480-2500 MHz (and to protect the related

SFCG lower guard band: 2480-2483.5 MHz). Our arguments (<i>also reminded

bellow in yellow regarding <b>Wifi</i></b><i> when we proposed “version

3”</i>) for this are moreless the same as the ones in my attached E-mail

related to 3GPP, to protect the said 2483.5-2500 MHz SFCG com+nav band

and its related upper guard band (for which not any normative numerical

value has been now defined following Peter’s remark, but here we have

to care a little more about what SFCG has defined for <b>Wifi </b>on<b>

</b>the lunar surface).</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">The

WG converged on this for 3GPP, and CNES is gratefull to the rest of the

Wireless WG for that, but we expect a symetric convergence for Wifi,

in order to avoid a sole convergence for 3GPP. Such a sole convergence

for 3GPP would be  moreless useless to protect Radio Astronomy in

the SZM, without convergence for <b>Wifi</b>.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">As

a reminder, none of the about 10 terrestrial wireless bands related to

the 883 book are among the SFCG lunar band, excepted moreless in the the

case of Wifi 2.4-2.5 GHz, since the <b>lunar SFCG </b>wireless 2.4 GHz

band is 2.400-2.480 GHz. But even in that case, NASA and CSA are continuing

to act as if they are willing to not fully protect the 2480-2500 MHz from

Wifi on the lunar surface, even if this is threatening a lot RA on the

SZM actually.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">CNES

desagrees CCSDS having a such precedance in validating such a threat in

one of its standards.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">If

needed, I could organise a teleconference with the Wireless WG and the

Radio Astronomy high level representatives relying on CNES to care about

protection of RA continuum observations from the SZM ? For CNES and these

RA representatives, it is obvioulsy much more important to recommand in

the red book to choose  Wi-Fi </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#104160;font-family:Calibri">Direct<sup>®</sup>

Soft AP (peer-to-peer) solutions providing ability to restrict channels

on a fine-scale level (<i>since these solutions exist in the terrestrial

market, even if they are not the majority</i>), rather than letting the

possibility in the 883 standard to overlap the 2483.5-2500 MHz SFCG band,

and its guard bands, wiping then out all the possibilities to do proper

Radio Astronomy continuum observations (</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#104160;font-family:Calibri">impossible

from Earth</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#104160;font-family:Calibri">)

from the Shielded Zone of the Moon, for the reasons already explained several

times (for instance in the attached E-mail)  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">CNES

therefore proposes a new version of the red book (version 2bis), that I

uploaded in CWE, with the normative RA protecting paragraph for the case

of <b>Wifi</b>. Due to the potential interpretation of a lack of consideration

for SFCG in the last CSA/NASA proposal, we also propose a slight update

of the overview paragraph in chapter 3 to better take into accound SFCG.

We propose also correction of some typos (<i>including in the 3GPP normative

paragraph protecting the SFCG com+nav 2483.5-2500 MHz band</i>), and I

highlighted in yellow ref (42) at the begining of the red book. An extract

of this new version is attached here. </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Thank

you in advance to all, and in particular NASA and CSA for their benevolence

vis a vis Radio Astronomy in the Shielded Zone of the Moon.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Very

best regards; have a nice day and a good week-end.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Envoyé :</b> mardi 6 juillet 2021 17:16<b><br>

À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc :</b> Ni, David (JSC-EV)[Jacobs Technology, Inc.] <</span><a href="mailto:david.ni-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>david.ni-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Girard, Ralph (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:ralph.girard@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>ralph.girard@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:d.gratton@sympatico.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>d.gratton@sympatico.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Objet :</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Jean-Luc -</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">I

have reviewed the proposed updates of 30-Jun-2021 (the most recent updates)

with NASA and CSA SOIS-WIR WG representatives.  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">NASA

and CSA accept the CNES proposal and the updated document (filename: "v0.10.17.05.13

883x0r0_CESG_Approval CNES+ESA+NASA RIDs--CNES review+KKG+Clean+CNES-V2.doc")

is on the CWE at: </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> 

  </span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/sois/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsois%2Fdocs%2FSOIS%2DWIR%2FAAA%20Meeting%20Materials%2F2021%2FSpring%2FCCSDS%2D0%2D883%2DR%2D0%20RID%20Processing%2FCCSDS%2D883%2D0%2DR%2D0%20Document%20Repository&FolderCTID=0x0120009D2B0A68C3206447999D0442422BD332&View=%7B23F123B6%2D2C0C%2D4AF8%2D87FC%2D7DBEA74BFFFC%7D"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/sois/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsois%2Fdocs%2FSOIS%2DWIR%2FAAA%20Meeting%20Materials%2F2021%2FSpring%2FCCSDS%2D0%2D883%2DR%2D0%20RID%20Processing%2FCCSDS%2D883%2D0%2DR%2D0%20Document%20Repository&FolderCTID=0x0120009D2B0A68C3206447999D0442422BD332&View=%7B23F123B6%2D2C0C%2D4AF8%2D87FC%2D7DBEA74BFFFC%7D</u></span></a></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Can

you please give the document a final review to ensure your CNES updates

are properly included?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">If

we are in consensus, then I will forward the document for CESG review and

the CCSDS publication process.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Please

let me know if any questions.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks

for all the hard work and diligence from yourself and CNES.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin

</span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:30 PM<b><br>

To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Please

find here our comments.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Reference

[42] is added in paragraph 1.8 (page 1.8). We made several times proposals

to add this reference, but no comment was provided to this proposal up

till now, while its mention was agreed by the WG in several following paragraphs

of the 883 red book. In some other paragraphs, there is a confusion between

ref [40] and ref  [42] .</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">CNES

thanks all the colleagues of the Wireless WG and Peter, since progress

are still on going, despite we still have desagreements with the “IEEE

802.11 channel plan” paragraph 3.2.5, as explained in the joint pages,

and in the uploaded version (in CWE) of the red book with the proposed

updates and the related justifications due to very important radio astronomy

issues. </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Looking

forward a consensus</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Have

a nice day; VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Envoyé :</b> mercredi 30 juin 2021 02:42<b><br>

À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc :</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Objet :</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Jean-Luc - </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">It

has been one week since the document has been available for CNES review;

can we please know the status of CNES on the proposal?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">As

SOIS-WIR WG chair, I confirm that this document has been updated with your/CNES

requested input (exactly) as communicated previously.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Please

let the group know if CNES accepts the proposal.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:16 AM<b><br>

To:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc:</b> </span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Jean-Luc -</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">I

have posted the updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 Document of the CWE with your/CNES

proposed text in Section 3.1 and Section 3.3.1:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">--

I went through and accepted all agreed-to updates from NASA, ESA, CNES</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">--

All text modified over the two weeks is easily identified (it is worth-while

to just "page at-a-glance" through Ch. 1, 2, 3 for the visual,

I strongly suggest this high-level strategy for all)</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> 

 Yellow : All the text added for CNES RID A through RID V (Ch.1 and

Ch.2), thanks to Jean-Luc/CNES</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> 

 Blue : This is Jean-Luc's proposed additions to Ch. 3</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> 

 Green : Stephen's note on Wi-Fi Channel Plan</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

document (filename: v0.10.17.05.12 883x0r0_CESG_Approval CNES+ESA+NASA

RIDs--CNES review+KKG+Clean+CNES-V2.doc) is on the CWE at:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> 

  </span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/sois/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsois%2Fdocs%2FSOIS%2DWIR%2FAAA%20Meeting%20Materials%2F2021%2FSpring%2FCCSDS%2D0%2D883%2DR%2D0%20RID%20Processing%2FCCSDS%2D883%2D0%2DR%2D0%20Document%20Repository&FolderCTID=0x0120009D2B0A68C3206447999D0442422BD332&View=%7B23F123B6%2D2C0C%2D4AF8%2D87FC%2D7DBEA74BFFFC%7D" target=_blank><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/sois/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsois%2Fdocs%2FSOIS%2DWIR%2FAAA%20Meeting%20Materials%2F2021%2FSpring%2FCCSDS%2D0%2D883%2DR%2D0%20RID%20Processing%2FCCSDS%2D883%2D0%2DR%2D0%20Document%20Repository&FolderCTID=0x0120009D2B0A68C3206447999D0442422BD332&View=%7B23F123B6%2D2C0C%2D4AF8%2D87FC%2D7DBEA74BFFFC%7D</u></span></a></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc's

suggested text is in <b>Section 3.1 </b>and <b>Section 3.3.1.</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Stephen

Braham (CSA/NASA) has proposed an Informative Note on Wi-Fi channel plans

and impacts in <b>Section: 3.2.5.</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>@Jean-Luc:

Please review and let the group know if this version of the document is

acceptable to CNES.</b>  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks

to all!</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 22, 2021 10:30 AM<b><br>

To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc:</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">May

we know what do you think about CNES proposals ?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Looking

forward a consensus for the 883-0-R-0 Agency Review.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Envoyé :</b> vendredi 18 juin 2021 16:01<b><br>

À :</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Cc :</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Objet :</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Jean-Luc - </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thank

you for providing the CNES proposed verbiage in an effort to come to a

consensus regarding the 2480 MHz - 2503.5 MHz frequency band which has

implications for DLR/ESA lunar communications LO-LS links and commercial

lunar mission support services.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

NASA and CSA CCSDS-883-0-R-0 team is scheduled to meet on Monday, 21-Jun-2021,

1500 CET, to discuss the proposal.  We should have a reply to you

later in the day (early evening in Toulouse).</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks

again for CNES continued participation in the discussions.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Friday, June 18, 2021 4:01 AM<b><br>

To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc:</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Martin, dear Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Please

find here 1) some comments to continue to look for better understanding

of CNES proposals, and then 2) comments to your proposal Martin, and then

3)  new proposals taking into account you proposal Kevin:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>1)</b></span><span style=" font-size:7pt;color:#004080;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

    </b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b><u>Comment

to explain CNES proposals:</u></b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Thank

you very much Martin for expressing DLR support to respecting ITU RR in

the Shielded Zone of the Moon. CNES think the 883 book is already well

oriented in that respect. The specific issue related to the protection

needed for the SFCG 2483.5-2500 MHz band is a different but specific issue

:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Overlapping

this 2483.5-2500 MHz critical band is compatible with RR in the Shielded

Zone of the Moon, but if this band is overlapped by a wireless band, it

could not anymore be used for PNT, and L-band PNT (which is the worst case

scenario to “kill” Radio Astronomy continuum observation on the Shielded

Zone of the Moon) should be the remaining scenario. This would be unacceptable

for CNES, and that is why the following shall be a </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#002060;font-family:Calibri"><b>normative</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">

statement to have a consensus, to <b>protect</b> Radio Astronomy in the

SZM from Adopters which could be tempted by overlapping the 2483.5-2500

MHz critical band (<b>as a reminder, RFM/SLR already officially mentioned

this to SOIS Wireless WG in commenting the draft 883 red book the need

to troncate the 2496-2620 MHz 3GPP band to protect the SFCG 2483.5-2500

MHz band, via a liaison statement</b>):</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>Mandatorily

normative statement in chapter 3  (revised version):</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">In

any case, radiated volontary emissions (in allocated channels) and unvolontary

emissions (from corresponding spurious) made by RF wireless transmitting

devices of all types in the lunar or martian environment, which would  cause

frequency overlaps with the lunar and martian communication orbit to surface

bands of <strike>(1)</strike> 2483.5-2500 MHz [33], [40]<strike>; or (2)

<b>a</strike></b><strike> 3.5 MHz upper guard band between 2500 MHz and

2503.5 MHz; or (3)  as well as the 3.5 MHz lower guard band between

2480 MHz and 2483.5 MHz [33], [40],</strike> shall not be permitted.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

related SFCG  lower guard band [33], [40] protecting this orbit to

surface band shall not be overlaped. The Adopter should also define an

upper guard band to protect this orbit to surface band.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Nota

Bene: CNES could accept the statement to be non normative with 3.5 MHz

guard bands, if NASA and CSA write an E-mail to CNES saying that NASA and

CSA will not overlap the 2480-2503.5 MHz lunar and martian SFCG band with

lunar wireless free space links, and will not promote such overlaping by

third operators. Then, we would be more confident the CCSDS 883 red book

would not create an important threat for Radio Astronomy on the Shielded

Zone of the Moon, if this normative statement is not mentioned.</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#212100;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">[40]

Frequency assignment guidelines for communications in the Mars region.

Space Frequency Coordination Group. Recommendation SFCG 22-1R3. Reference

[40] will become SFCG 22-1R4 when this SFCG Recommendation is revised.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#212100;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>The

agreed requirement which shall be added to section 3 state that:</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><b>use

of any frequency band</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"

shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting any of non-SFCG

wireless frequency band with a NOTE remarking that</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">

</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><b>This

recommended standard does not provide normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permited bands to be used  </b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#008250;font-family:Arial"><b>in

addition to applicable SFCG bands</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><b>

by the space systems using the wireless terrestrial standards covered in

this book</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"</b>

  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Nota

Bene about what this requirement implies:</b> </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#b1b1d2;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>“</b></span><span style=" font-size:16pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>in

addition to applicable SFCG bands</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#b1b1d2;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>”</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

makes (for CNES) possible the normative statement above related to <b>the

2483.5-2500 MHz band, which is </b></span><span style=" font-size:14pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>the

only</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

SFCG band potentially overlapped by one of the numerous “non-SFCG compatible”

wireless standards of the red book</b>, moreover by <b>severely threatening

Radio Astronomy on the Shielded Zone of the Moon</b>. </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:red;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Due

to this specific uniqueness, in due to the mentioned threat, the said normative

statement above in yellow related to the SFCG 2483.5-2500 MHz band is mandatory

for CNES</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">,

</span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#603181;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>and

shall be separated in a specific paragraph</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Comments

on this issue highlighted several times would be appeciated</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>2)</b></span><span style=" font-size:7pt;color:#004080;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

    </b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b><u>comments

to your proposal Martin</u></b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">We

agree to assemble the different <b>normative </b>paragraphs as you propose,

Martin, with one exception:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>Exception:

</b>The paragraph above <b>in yellow</b> on the 2483.5-2500 MHz band, which

is a very specific issue excluded by “</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b>in

addition to applicable SFCG bands</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">”,

have to be excluded from the assembling, as justified above and hereafter.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Other

comments in your text:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">This

recommended standard does not provide any normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permitted bands </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>in

addition to applicable SFCG bands by the space systems using the wireless

terrestrial standards covered in this book. Consequently, the following

implications for the frequency selection are to be followed:</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

frequency band choices for lunar <b>or martian </b>surface wireless transmissions

could be impacted by ITU REC [38] and by the Radio Regulation [39] applicable

in the Shielded Zone of the Moon (SZM). Therefore, </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Adopters</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

</b>must ensure compatibility with ITU Radio Regulations.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Wingdings"><b>è</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>OK</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><b>use

of any frequency band</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"

shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting any of non-SFCG

wireless frequency band.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Wingdings"><b>è</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Arial"><b>

OK</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><strike>Special

attention shall be given to the <b>2483.5-2500 MHz band, which is </strike></b></span><span style=" font-size:14pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b><strike>the

only</strike></b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b><strike>

SFCG band potentially overlapped by one of the numerous “non-SFCG compatible”

wireless standards of the red book (see informational note in section …

for more detail).</strike></b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:red;font-family:Wingdings"><b>è</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:red;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

NOT OK: </b>shall be separate due to the very specific and unique issue

as justified above, and shall be <b>normative</b> ( not an informational

note which <b>would not protect</b> Radio Astronomy in the SZM <b>from

the heavy threat</b> mentioned )</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:red;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Remark:</b>

moreover, the proposed text here <b>highlight that most of the wireless

standards of the red book are not SFCG-compatible</b>: this is true, I

agree this to be mentioned  elsewere (non normative note; not in this

paragraph) in the red book</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Space

Agencies</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

</b>must ensure clearance for an SFCG Waiver when the chosen frequency

band is not recommended in [33] <b>or in [40]</b>.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Wingdings">è</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Arial"><b>

OK</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">A

Frequency Usage Verification Procedure needs to be followed as it is defined

by the responsible bodies, that can be SLS RLM WG.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Wingdings">è</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Arial"><b>

OK</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>3)</b></span><span style=" font-size:7pt;color:#004080;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

    </b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>new

proposals taking into account you proposal Kevin:</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>To

put at the end of paragraph 3.1 (Overview) one of the 2 version of the

assembled paragraph</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b> </b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>option

1:</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>This

recommended standard does not provide any normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permitted bands </b></span><span style=" font-size:14pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>in

addition to the applicable SFCG band</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

by the space systems using the wireless terrestrial standards covered in

this book. Consequently, the following implications for the frequency selection

are to be followed:</b></span></p>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">1.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>The

frequency band choices for lunar or martian surface wireless transmissions

could be impacted by ITU REC [38] and by the Radio Regulation [39] applicable

in the Shielded Zone of the Moon (SZM). Therefore, Adopters must ensure

compatibility with ITU Radio Regulations.</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">2.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>The

</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial"><b>use

of any frequency band</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"

shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting any of non-SFCG

wireless frequency band.</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">3.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Space

Agencies must ensure clearance for an SFCG Waiver when the chosen frequency

band is not recommended in [33] or in [40].</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">4.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>A

Frequency Usage Verification Procedure needs to be followed as it is defined

by the responsible bodies, that can be SLS RLM WG.</b></span>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"><b>option

2 :</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>This

recommended standard does not provide any normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permitted bands </b></span><span style=" font-size:16pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>[</b></span><span style=" font-size:16pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>in

addition to the applicable SFCG band to protect (2483.5-2500 MHz)]</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

by the space systems using the wireless terrestrial standards covered in

this book. Consequently, the following implications for the frequency selection

are to be followed:</b></span></p>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">1.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>The

frequency band choices for lunar or martian surface wireless transmissions

could be impacted by ITU REC [38] and by the Radio Regulation [39] applicable

in the Shielded Zone of the Moon (SZM). Therefore, Adopters must ensure

compatibility with ITU Radio Regulations.</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">2.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>The

</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial"><b>use

of any frequency band</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"

shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting any of non-SFCG

wireless frequency band.</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">3.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Space

Agencies must ensure clearance for an SFCG Waiver when the chosen frequency

band is not recommended in [33] or in [40].</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">4.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>A

Frequency Usage Verification Procedure needs to be followed as it is defined

by the responsible bodies, that can be SLS RLM WG.</b></span>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">In

addition, the 3 partially redoundant paragraphs on this in chapter 3 are

proposed to be removed.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">The

more important issue to reach consensus hopefully:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>Mandatorily

normative statement in chapter 3 : in paragraph 3.3.1</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">In

any case, radiated volontary emissions (in allocated channels) and unvolontary

emissions (from corresponding spurious) made by RF wireless transmitting

devices of all types in the lunar or martian environment, which would  cause

frequency overlaps with the lunar and martian communication orbit to surface

bands of 2483.5-2500 MHz [33], [40] shall not be permitted. The related

SFCG  lower guard band [33], [40] protecting this orbit to surface

band shall not be overlaped. The Adopter should also define an upper guard

band to protect this orbit to surface band</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b>.</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">For

clarity, I updated the red book on CWE with these proposals, and I joint

the corresponding extract of chapter 3 with all the proposed updates.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Looking

forward a consensus, which imply an agreement on real protection of Radio

Astronomy in the SZM by normatively not having any ambiguity on avoiding

the overlapping of 2483.5-2500 MHz SFCG orbit to surface band in the CCSDS

883 bleu book.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Envoyé :</b> jeudi 17 juin 2021 16:13<b><br>

À :</b> </span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Cc :</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Objet :</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Martin, Dear All - </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">@Martin:

Thank you for the suggested input.  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">As

SOIS-WIR WG Chair, I would support Martin's proposal and I believe that

NASA would support this proposal as well with the (Martin's) proposed text

up front in Section 3.1.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">@Jean-Luc:

Can CNES accept Martin's proposal?</span></p>

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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks

to all for the hard work and professionalism displayed dealing with this

important concern.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:52 AM<b><br>

To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc:</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> AW: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I

can confirm and support the CNES statement regarding the ITU Regulation

concerning the Shielded side of the moon, since this is also the main concern

by the German radio astronomers as from a statement made by our SFCG representative

Mr. Ewald. So, it should be clarified “that using LTE on the moon is not

violating the RR and this usage is compatible with existing regulation”

as Mr. Ewald stated regarding this specific issue.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I

am not sure if this is possible, but I would suggest to compress all relevant

information to one statement, as all of them are connected to each other,

and the reader (the later adaptor/ system architect) directly knows the

conditions under which he needs  select the frequency band, who is

responsible for what and which actions items he needs to work through.

It is more clear to the reader and the most important information is at

one place.  It would be maybe something like this:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">This

recommended standard does not provide any normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permitted bands </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>in

addition to applicable SFCG bands by the space systems using the wireless

terrestrial standards covered in this book. Consequently, the following

implications for the frequency selection are to be followed:</b></span></p>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">1.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

frequency band choices for lunar <b>or martian </b>surface wireless transmissions

could be impacted by ITU REC [38] and by the Radio Regulation [39] applicable

in the Shielded Zone of the Moon (SZM). Therefore, </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Adopters</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

</b>must ensure compatibility with ITU Radio Regulations.</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">2.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><b>use

of any frequency band</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"

shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting any of non-SFCG

wireless frequency band.</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">3.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Special

attention shall be given to the <b>2483.5-2500 MHz band, which is </b></span><span style=" font-size:14pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>the

only</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

SFCG band potentially overlapped by one of the numerous “non-SFCG compatible”

wireless standards of the red book (see informational note in section …

for more detail).</b></span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">4.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Space

Agencies</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

</b>must ensure clearance for an SFCG Waiver when the chosen frequency

band is not recommended in [33] <b>or in [40]</b>.</span>

<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">5.    

   </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">A

Frequency Usage Verification Procedure needs to be followed as it is defined

by the responsible bodies, that can be SLS RLM WG.</span>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Best

regards</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>Von:</b>

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2021 19:25<b><br>

An:</b> Drobczyk, Martin <</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Cc:</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Betreff:</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Kevin, dear all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Please

find here the attached CNES answers and proposals, looking forward your

understanding of CNES and Radio Astronomers high level concerns, and a

consensus.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Have

a nice day; VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> </span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Envoyé :</b> mercredi 16 juin 2021 07:50<b><br>

À :</b> </span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Cc :</b> </span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>

Objet :</b> AW: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi

all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">number

1 is a very important statement/requirement (maybe the most important)

and already builds the framework for number 3 which can be from my point

of view an informational note, as long as number 1 is a requirement. Because

the statement in number 1 delegates the frequency selection and verification

to the bodies and authorized representatives responsible for it. And it

clearly and implicitly states, that this book recommends the wireless terrestrial

standards but without any guarantee and authority to use them in the terrestrial

bands, but instead be (always) compliant with any SFCG and SLS RFM decisions,

clauses or normative statements regarding frequency selection.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">For

this reason, I would also agree with Kevin that number 2 is out of the

scope of this document as it is already enclosed in the statement of number

1 “.. verified liaising with RFM WG..”, and the verification process

needs to be established there.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Best

regards</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>Von:</b>

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

<b><br>

Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 15. Juni 2021 18:07<b><br>

An:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc:</b> Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Lansdowne, Chatwin (JSC-EV811) <</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Stephen Braham <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA) <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

Drobczyk, Martin <</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Betreff:</b> Re: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on

the CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">[

+ Peter Shames ]</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Dear

Jean-Luc - </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Thank

you for your updated proposal.  I believe we are getting close to

a resolution and again am very thankful to be addressing this issue with

yourself and CNES.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Thanks

also for acknowledging that CNES is aware of the directions provided by

Peter Shames (CESG) to the SOIS-WIR WG on this issue.  Per Peter Shames'

instructions, the CCSDS-883-0-R-0 document:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">--

Shall state normatively that all spectrum coordination <b>must</b> go through

the SLS-RFM and the SFCG</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">--

<b>Cannot</b> make any <u>normative</u> statements regarding frequency

assignments</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

SOIS-WIR counter proposal is as follows:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">-----

1 -------</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">[Accept]

</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">A

requirement shall be added to section 3 to state that: "use of / allocation

of frequencies" shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting

any of non-SFCG wireless frequency band with a NOTE remarking that "This

recommended standard does not provide normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permitted bands to be used by the wireless terrestrial standards

in addition to applicable SFCG bands"</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">-----

2 -------</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">[Reject]</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

added requirement shall be reflected in the PICS Annex by a relevant "Frequency

Usage Verification Procedure" to be added to the existing Network

Connectivity Verification Procedure, Network Performance Verification Procedure,

QoS Verification Procedure.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Rationale:

The CCSDS Yellow Book is required for interoperability conformance verifications.

 A "SLS-RFM or SFCG" Frequency Verification Procedure is

out of scope for CCDSD-883-0-R-0; SOIS-WIR firmly believes this procedure

is in purview of SLS-RFM.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">-----

3 -------</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">For

the CNES proposed text below the SOIS-WIR WG will accept this text as an

<b>Informational Note</b> but not as a Normative statement:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">In

any case, radiated volontary emissions (in allocated channels) and unvolontary

emissions (from corresponding spurious) made by RF wireless transmitting

devices of all types in the lunar or martian environment, which would  cause

frequency overlaps with the lunar and martian communication orbit to surface

bands of <strike>(1)</strike> 2483.5-2500 MHz [33], [40]<strike>; or (2)

<b>a</strike></b><strike> 3.5 MHz upper guard band between 2500 MHz and

2503.5 MHz; or (3)  as well as the 3.5 MHz lower guard band between

2480 MHz and 2483.5 MHz [33], [40],</strike> shall not be permitted.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

related SFCG  lower guard band [33], [40] protecting this lunar and

martian communication orbit to surface band shall not be overlaped. SFCG

will define the related upper guard band [33], [40] after the publication

of this Bleu Book. This upper guard band, when defined, shall not be overlaped.

</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Times New Roman"><strike>By</strike>

W</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">aiting

the SFCG definition of this upper guard band, the Adopter should </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>define

this upper guard band by using the “</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><b>Frequency

Usage Verification Procedure” of the PICS Annex</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>.</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#212100;font-family:Times New Roman">[40]

</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><i>Frequency

assignment guidelines for communications in the Mars region</i>. Space

Frequency Coordination Group. Recommendation SFCG 22-1R3. </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#212100;font-family:Times New Roman">Reference

[40] will become SFCG 22-1R4 when this SFCG Recommendation will be edited.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Rationale:

Per CESG instructions, no normative statements regarding spectrum bands,

channels or guard bands are to be allowed.. in CCSDS-883-0-R-0.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

SOIS-WIR WG will publicize/discuss the above proposal with Peter Shames

to ensure that our Working Groupo is properly following CESG expectations.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Jean-Luc:

Would CNES accept the above proposal?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Thanks.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">Kevin</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>

SOIS-WIR <</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>

on behalf of Issler Jean-Luc <</span><a href="mailto:Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:04 AM<b><br>

To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">

<</span><a href="mailto:sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sois-wir@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Subject:</b> [SOIS-WIR] TR: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0

on the CWE </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

all,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Please

find here a wording for an updated proposal : modifications of the first

paragraph are tracked, and a second paragraph has been added in order to

not write any guard band bandwidth value (as proposed by Mr Shame in his

E-mail bellow), and to not preclude about future SFCG decisions <b>while

protecting Radio Astronomy</b>, this last point beeing as you know a very

important challenge for CNES and the Radio Astronomers, very concerned

about this guard band issue. </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">In

any case, radiated volontary emissions (in allocated channels) and unvolontary

emissions (from corresponding spurious) made by RF wireless transmitting

devices of all types in the lunar or martian environment, which would  cause

frequency overlaps with the lunar and martian communication orbit to surface

bands of <strike>(1)</strike> 2483.5-2500 MHz [33], [40]<strike>; or (2)

<b>a</strike></b><strike> 3.5 MHz upper guard band between 2500 MHz and

2503.5 MHz; or (3)  as well as the 3.5 MHz lower guard band between

2480 MHz and 2483.5 MHz [33], [40],</strike> shall not be permitted.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The

related SFCG  lower guard band [33], [40] protecting this lunar and

martian communication orbit to surface band shall not be overlaped. SFCG

will define the related upper guard band [33], [40] after the publication

of this Bleu Book. This upper guard band, when defined, shall not be overlaped.

</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><strike>By</strike>

W</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">aiting the SFCG

definition of this upper guard band, the Adopter should </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b>define

this upper guard band by using the “</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><b>Frequency

Usage Verification Procedure” of the PICS Annex</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><b>.</b></span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">[40]

Frequency assignment guidelines for communications in the Mars region.

Space Frequency Coordination Group. Recommendation SFCG 22-1R3. Reference

[40] will become SFCG 22-1R4 when this SFCG Recommendation will be edited.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">What

do you think please ?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">What

do you think about the update proposal of the note in blue bellow please

?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Following

Mr Shame’s message bellow, and some discussions that occur, it is not

clear enougth in the 883B red book weather the wireless architecture standard

refering to a certain number of terrestrial wireless standards is normative

regarding the wireless standard frequencies or not. According to Mr Shame,

the wireless frequencies shall not be normative. To make this ambiguity

desapear, CNES proposes to add in the normative chapter 3 the following:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>1)</b></span><span style=" font-size:7pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

    </b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>A

requirement shall be added to section 3 to state that: </b>"</span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><b>use

of / allocation of frequencies</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">"

shall be verified liaising with RFM WG before selecting any of non-SFCG

wireless frequency band with a NOTE remarking that</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"</b></span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><b>This

recommended standard does not provide normative guidance in the frequency

values of the permited bands to be used by the wireless terrestrial standards

in addition to applicable SFCG bands</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>"</b>

  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><b>2)

The added requirement shall be reflected in the PICS Annex by a relevant

 "Frequency Usage Verification Procedure"</b> to be added

to the existing Network Connectivity Verification Procedure, Network Performance

Verification Procedure, QoS Verification Procedure.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">What

do you think about this proposal following Mr Shame’s remarks </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Looking

forward a consensus, in order to make all the CNES RIDs to have disposition,

and to have a normative guard band text (<i>without any guard band bandwidth

value</i> <i>as now wished</i>) letting a chance for Radio Astronomy continuum

observations in the Shielded Zone of the Moon.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">VBR</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>

From:        <span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,

Peter M (US 312B)" <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>

To:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Gian

Paolo Calzolari" <<a href=mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,

"Gilles Moury" <</span><a href=mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,

"</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"

<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>

Cc:        <span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Wilmot,

Jonathan J. (GSFC-5820)" <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,

"Wagner, Raymond S. (JSC-EV811)" <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,

"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,

"Lee, Dennis K (US 332G)" <</span><a href=mailto:dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>

Date:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">09/06/21

23:58</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>

Subject:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Potential

SLS / RFM issue</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">

</span></p>

<div align=center>

<hr noshade></div>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear

Gippo, Gilles, and Enrico,</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I

just had a discussion with a couple of the SOIS Wireless (WIR) WG guys,

Gifford and Wagner.  I think that the major issues that I perceived,

vis-à-vis handling their “near-by” link layer protocols in a fashion

consistent with the rest of the space link protocols has been dealt with.

 In the SANA we will treat them as two separate protocols from the

rest of the SLS standards, and we will register the identifiers assigned

by their “home” standards organizations in their own SANA SCID registries.

 </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The

reference to SANA SCID registries, of course, implies that they will also

need to align with the Q-SCID frequency bands as well, and those are aligned

with RFM WG and SFCG practices.  I do not believe that any of you

have an issue with any of this.  </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The

WG has experienced some push back, from both NASA and CNES members, regarding

the inclusion of statements about frequency bands or frequency allocations

in any bands.  I have advised the SOIS WIR to not provide any sort

of normative guidance in this matter and to defer to the RFM WG for all

questions regarding use of / allocation of frequencies.  This is under

the assumption that you will, in turn, rely upon the SFCG to provide the

formal guidance and frequency allocations in accordance with established

international practices and regulations.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I

am writing now just to ascertain that you all concur.  I believe that

the SOIS WIR needs to  just acknowledge this situation and, for questions

about frequency allocations, to guide the users of these standards to the

RFM WG and the SFCG.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Do

you agree?</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks,

Peter</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De

:</b> Issler Jean-Luc <b><br>

Envoyé :</b> mardi 8 juin 2021 19:15<b><br>

À :</b> 'Kevin K Gifford' <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Cc :</b> </span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href="mailto:david.ni-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>david.ni-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

</span><a href=mailto:Andre.Luebken@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Andre.Luebken@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

warp <</span><a href=mailto:warp@polylab.sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>warp@polylab.sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;

</span><a href=mailto:Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Martin.Drobczyk@dlr.de</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;

Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>

Objet :</b> RE: AW: AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated CCSDS-883-0-R-0 on the

CWE</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear

all, and thank you Stephen, Martin and Kevin for your updates</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Please

find here CNES proposal</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">In

any case, radiated <b>volontary </b>emissions (in allocated channels<b>)</b>

and <b>unvolontary emissions (</b>from corresponding spurious) made by

RF wireless transmitting devices of all types in the lunar or martian environment,

which <b>would </b> cause frequency overlaps with the lunar and martian

communication <b>orbit to surface</b> bands of (1) 2483.5-2500 MHz [33],

[40]; or (2) <b>a</b> 3.5 MHz upper guard band between 2500 MHz and 2503.5

MHz; or (3)  as well as the 3.5 MHz lower guard band between 2480

MHz and 2483.5 MHz [33], [40], <b>shall </b>not be permitted.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Ref

[40] is:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">[40]

Frequency assignment guidelines for communications in the Mars region.

Space Frequency Coordination Group. Recommendation SFCG 22-1R3.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">As

already explained, for CNES, the 3GPP terrestrial standard in the 2496-2620

MHz band (not SFCG) cannot be normative (with the discussed band restriction),

if the discussed bands to protect (orbit to surface band and its guard

bands) are not normatively protected. This text shall therefore effectively

be out of a NOTE. </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">We

propose this text above to be just before the NOTEs of paragraph 3.1.1

GENERAL ( Alternatively, this text above could be just before the NOTE

of paragraph 3.1 OVERVIEW )</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Since

the EARFCN paragraph is proposed to be not kept, the related references

[40] and [41] on E UTRA appearing in this paragraph are proposed to be

removed, and the martian SFCG doc would have reference [40].</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">We

also propose to update the last NOTE of paragraph 3.1.1 as follows:</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">The

frequency band choices for lunar <b>or martian </b>surface wireless transmissions

could be impacted by ITU REC [38] and by the Radio Regulation [39] applicable

in the Shielded Zone of the Moon (SZM).  </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Adopters</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

</b>must also ensure compatibility with ITU Radio Regulations,  and

</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#008250;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>Space

Agencies</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b>

</b>must ensure clearance for an SFCG Waiver when the chosen frequency

band is not recommended in [33] <b>or in [40]</b>.</span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">I

uploaded on CWE a new version of the red book with all the proposed updates

(without the ones </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#008250;font-family:Calibri"><b>in

green</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">

that I realized after to be needed).</span></p>

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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">It

is mandatory for CNES to have consensus on the proposals in this E-mail

before our WG to submit to SESG a resolution for publication of 883-0-R-0

: looking forward a consensus.</span></p>

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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Have

a nice day/evening  VBR</span></p>

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