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<font color="#000080">At 03:33 AM 6/15/2005, Steve Parkes wrote:<br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080"> We have at last a
consistent architecture that meets, we believe, the broader needs of SIS
and the needs of spacecraft software and hardware engineers. Currently we
are in the process of writing this up in the form of a white paper for
broader review. As I am sure you can understand we want to make sure that
the TCONS/OBL working group agree on this document before we send it out
for any further review. </font></blockquote><br>
Steve: the TCONS mailing list (which is where that particular white paper
is being discussed) only contains 15 people, most of them the "usual
suspects". Is that the entire world gene pool of interest in TCONS?
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The OBL mailing list has had a total of three messages on it since
November 2003. <br><br>
I don't understand the need for such secrecy or lack of communication. Th
OBL, TCONS and TCOA work should be visible to the world.<br><br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">We will then welcome comments
and take into consideration any necessary modification of the TCONS/OBL
architecture. At the same time we are working on the Service Interface
Specification Red Books and expect to have drafts for internal review
soon. </font></blockquote><br>
How can you possibly be working on Red Books without having mature White
Books out on the public website for community comment? If you go to your
CWE site at
<a href="http://public.ccsds.org/sites/cwe/sois-tcons/Documents.aspx" eudora="autourl">
http://public.ccsds.org/sites/cwe/sois-tcons/Documents.aspx</a> there is
absolutely nothing loaded in the public area. Nothing.<br><br>
If you then log-in to the TCONS CWE at that page (which people from the
outside can't do) there is a 3-page White Paper from Max and a 2-slide
viewgraph from Jane. I don't see anything even vaguely resembling a
mature White Book (let alone a draft Red Book) under development within
your group. Where is it?<br><br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080"> Could you please let me
know the formal review procedures for CCSDS documents. We want to have
them reviewed by SIS and possibly other groups that you recommend before
sending them out for interagency review. Is this normal? If not how would
you suggest that we proceed? I would very much welcome an idiot's guide
to CCSDS review procedures as everyone that I have asked seems to have a
different perspective.</font> </blockquote><br>
See section 6 of the
<a href="http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/A00x0y9.pdf">
<font size=2 color="#29375B"><b><u>CCSDS
A00.0-Y-9</a></u></font><font color="#29375B"> (</b></font>Procedures
Manual for the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems. Yellow
Book. Issue 9. November 2003: this document is currently being updated to
add a graphical roadmap to the various review loops). If you have
any questions about process, your Area Director should be able to answer
them.<br><br><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
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<li><font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">The CCSDS logos etc have
changed and we have had some problems with the template documents that we
have been using in the past. Is there a new CCSDS white, green and red
book template available? If so could you please let me know where I can
get them from?</font> </blockquote>
</ol>You should be working with the CCSDS Document Editor (Tom Gannett)
on all documentation issues, right from the start of White Book
development. Tom will give you all of the logos and
templates.<br><br><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
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<li><font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">Could you please arrange a
joint SOIS / SIS meeting for the next CCSDS meeting so that we can
present our architecture and the work done. I would be happy to present
this to a wider CCSDS audience I you felt that it would be
useful.</font><font face="arial"></font></blockquote>
</ol>Work this with Patrick or Chris, who can then arrange the agenda
with Bob Durst.<br><br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">I can assure you that the TCONS
and OBL teams are fully committed to completing their SOIS work as soon
as possible. Most importantly we are committed to making sure that the
recommendations that we produce are worthy of CCSDS and will be used by
future space missions.</font></blockquote><br>
<font size=2>As I said in my original message to Patrick and Chris, I am
not attacking the work of TCONS and OBL, I am simply voicing my very
strong concern that virtually ALL of the SOIS work is completely hidden
from anyone except a "secret decoder ring club" of SOIS
inner-circle people. It is constantly embarrassing to have people from
industry or other agencies express strong interest in the work of SOIS,
and yet when they ask for documents to look at there is absolutely
NOTHING to point them to. Open international standards development is not
a stealth activity; if in doubt, err on the side of full public
visibility.<br><br>
Best regards<br>
Adrian<br>
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Adrian J. Hooke<br>
Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG)<br>
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