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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Adrian,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am sure that we all have the same goal
in mind - to successfully complete the work of the SOIS group and to get
the CCSDS SOIS standards accepted and used on international space missions. Further
I am sure that your email to Patrick is intended to offer help to the people
working within the SOIS working groups.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Patrick and Chris have both urged on the
work of the SOIS working groups and have conducted an extensive review of
progress. A key issue was the ACTUAL resources being made available for the SOIS
work. I assume that this is what you email referred when mentioning additional
resources. The situation for the TCONS working group chair was that in 2004 the
only funding available was for attending the two CCSDS meetings. My work only
progressed outside of the meetings because I was prepared to give up a
significant amount of annual leave to take the work of the TCONS group forward.
This clearly was not a sustainable position and Patrick has now managed to
secure ESA funding for my work. This funding was signed off in April 2005 and
has made a major difference to the time that I can spend on the SOIS activities.
The TCONS and OBL team now I believe have the appropriate level of funding
needed to do the work required by CCSDS. It would be rather ironic if you
recommended stopping the work of SOIS once this funding was finally in place.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The TCONS and OBL groups made an
exceptional amount of progress in the CCSDS meeting in Athens, the culmination
of learning about and fusing different viewpoints from different areas of
expertise over the past couple of years. We have at last a consistent architecture
that meets, we believe, the broader needs of SIS and the needs of spacecraft
software and hardware engineers. Currently we are in the process of writing
this up in the form of a white paper for broader review. As I am sure you can
understand we want to make sure that the TCONS/OBL working group agree on this
document before we send it out for any further review. We will then welcome
comments and take into consideration any necessary modification of the TCONS/OBL
architecture. At the same time we are working on the Service Interface Specification
Red Books and expect to have drafts for internal review soon. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Some points that you could help on are:</span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Could you please let me know
the formal review procedures for CCSDS documents. We want to have them
reviewed by SIS and possibly other groups that you recommend before
sending them out for interagency review. Is this normal? If not how would
you suggest that we proceed? I would very much welcome an idiot's
guide to CCSDS review procedures as everyone that I have asked seems to
have a different perspective.</span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The CCSDS logos etc have
changed and we have had some problems with the template documents that we
have been using in the past. Is there a new CCSDS white, green and red
book template available? If so could you please let me know where I can
get them from?</span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Could you please arrange a
joint SOIS / SIS meeting for the next CCSDS meeting so that we can present
our architecture and the work done. I would be happy to present this to a
wider CCSDS audience I you felt that it would be useful.</span></font></li>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can assure you that the TCONS and OBL
teams are fully committed to completing their SOIS work as soon as possible. Most
importantly we are committed to making sure that the recommendations that we
produce are worthy of CCSDS and will be used by future space missions.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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sois-tcoa-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org
[mailto:sois-tcoa-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Adrian J. Hooke<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 June 2005 18:31<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Patrick.Plancke@esa.int<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Adrian J. Hooke;
sois-tcoa@mailman.ccsds.org; CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - All;
sois-tcons@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Sois-tcoa] Re: Status of
SOIS?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>At 09:56 AM 6/14/2005,
Patrick.Plancke@esa.int wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I forgot that we do not use the same
metrics.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
Patrick: the metrics of the CCSDS are those that are visible to its primary
customers. The CCSDS.org website is the primary portal by which the outside
world measures our progress and products. If your work isn't visible via
ccsds.org, you may as well not exist.<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>About SOIS mailing list, the lists who are
the more currently used by working people are the TCONS and TCOAS (the
SOIS main list includes too many observers that do not contribute but only
listen).</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
The whole point of a mailing list is to communicate, even to observers. Not
using a public list implies that nothing is going on. So what if people don't
contribute? They can always unsubscribe if they get bored or overloaded by the
traffic. But in case of doubt, *communicate*.<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>For the CWE, did you look to the private
documents, for example in TCONS you have documents uploaded 13 and 14
June or the Wireless BOF ?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
The private areas are only accessible to people who have CWE log-in authority.
As material becomes ready to expose to public scrutiny it should <u>always</u>
be moved over to the public folder. How else can the outside world possibly see
what's going on? In the last few months I have had multiple people ask what is
happening in SOIS, and I've been embarrassed to find that there is NOTHING on
public view. It appears as if the whole Area is simply doing nothing.<br>
<br>
A standards organization should, if nothing else, be open. Documents should
only be hidden from public view in their earliest stages. Once you get to a
White Book stage, mark the document <u>prominently</u> as a draft and move it
to the WG's Public folder. That way you let a lot of outside people see what is
going on and, occasionally, you may get a really insightful comment from
someone who is not intimately involved with the development.<br>
<br>
Go take a look at <a href="http://www.dtnrg.org/" eudora=autourl>http://www.dtnrg.org</a>
. If those guys can develop complex specifications in public, why can't SOIS?<br>
<br>
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</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Anyway , we acknowledge the message.
Can TCOAS upload the red books ready for reviews on the CWE ?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
Of course. Why haven't the White Books been in the Public CWE folders for
months?<br>
<br>
///adrian</span></font></p>
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