<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Hello<br>
<br>
I am already in a Telecon at that time.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I will join you
after 17h00 European time to cover the DDOR agedna item.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
________________________________________<br>
Martin UNAL<br>
Ground Operation Manager<br>
Ground Facilities Ops HSO - ONO<br>
H-376<br>
ESOC<br>
Robert-Bosch Strasse 5<br>
64 293 Darmstadt<br>
Germany<br>
Tel +49 6151 90 2959 <br>
________________________________________</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Barkley,
Erik J (US 3970)" <erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"EXTERNAL-Unal,
Martin P (9110-Affiliate)" <Martin.Unal@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"CCSDS
Service Mgmt WG" <smwg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">21/05/2020
23:43</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">RE:
[cssm] Fw: DDOR configuration template</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">Dear
Martin,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">Now
that I finally have a copy of what you sent to Colin, of course, I have
some comments :-)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">First,
the instance document is not quite proper XML -- at least as Oxygen on
this end looks at it. Please see the screenshot below. Attached is what
I believe to be a properly formed version of the instance document.  </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">To
set the context, as I recall, the basic question was whether or not we
needed to look at another standard or augmentation to the SMURF to accommodate
the interagency ground sequence for conducting a DDOR observation. I think
the answer tends to be yes to the general question here. Presumably the
spacecraft event sequence will cover when DOR tones are on/off but then
of course there is the scan pattern and that has to be coordinated between
multiple agencies. I think the instance you have submitted is a step in
the right direction.  Here are some comments, questions, observations:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">1.    
   </span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">It
seems like this is something of a cross between a template and a fully
stated instance. For each of the targets to be in the scan pattern, there
appears to be a presumption that the scan will start at BOT plus the delay.
Is it fair to assume that the DDOR supports for a mission will always fit
this kind of pattern?  I suspect the answer is no and that there are
either multiple patterns.  At a minimum, depending upon whether the
groundstation is the "incoming" groundstation with regard to
communications geometry or the "outgoing" groundstation then
this would probably also have to have something that is stated as the offset
relative to the EOT? Or perhaps we should think about allowing absolute
times to be stated?</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">2.    
   </span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">Recevier_2
-- this seems like an internal concern to the implementation -- I think
for international standard the main thing would be to have the scan pattern
identified and not which particular (open-loop) receiver is being used.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">3.    
   </span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">Given
that DDOR requires a fair amount of interagency coordination and there
are constraints with regard to communication geometries and quasar of visibility,
should there be some sort of provision for indicating the ground stations
involved in this? I'm not sure that this is really needed but then again
it does seem like if we are doing this interagency the data standard has
to allow for being very precise and clear as to the exact apertures being
requested to support the scan pattern -- that of course could be indicated
in the aperture constraints of the SMURF.</span>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">Assuming
you can attend our teleconference on May 26, I look forward to discussing
this further.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia">-Erik</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><img src=cid:_4_1B9703A81A757A70004F33C7C1258574 style="border:0px solid;"></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:#004080;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>
SMWG <smwg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Colin.Haddow@esa.int<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, May 7, 2020 08:18<b><br>
To:</b> smwg@mailman.ccsds.org<b><br>
Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [cssm] Fw: DDOR configuration template</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
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Dr. Colin R. Haddow,<br>
HSO-GI, European Space Agency,<br>
European Space Operations Centre,<br>
Robert-Bosch-Str 5,<br>
64293 Darmstadt,<br>
Germany.<br>
<br>
Phone; +49 6151 90 2896<br>
Fax;      +49 6151 90 3010<br>
E-Mail;  </span><a href=mailto:colin.haddow@esa.int><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>colin.haddow@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#800080;font-family:Arial"><br>
----- Forwarded by Colin Haddow/esoc/ESA on 07/05/2020 17:17 -----</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Martin
Unal/esoc/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Colin
Haddow/esoc/ESA@ESA</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Holger
Dreihahn/esoc/ESA@ESA</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">06/11/2019
17:24</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">DDOR
configuration template</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
<div align=center>
<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Hello</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I have drafted a proposal of xml layout for DDOR support based on our experience
on ESTRACK</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
This need to be tune to the SMURF, but all the element of information shall
be there.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
>From our operational experience, using the formulare in the magenta leave
room to build invalid contradicting entries. <br>
And it did happen many time.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
This minimum set of value, together with the element contain in the SMURF
request could be used to write the old text format in the magenta book
(see below) to support backward compatibility if needed.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
For memory</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b><br>
C1 EXAMPLE 1</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><b><br>
<Maven-Abbrev>_DDOR_2014_228_2014_250_v2.des</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
$ddorGroundObservationsEventSequence</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
RequestId = 2014-205T15:50:00;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
FormatVersion = 1;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
orginatingOrganization = DSN;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
MissionId = <Maven-Abbrev>;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
$START</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
ddorConfigProfileId = 202F2;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
ScIndex____ScId____DorOn____DorOff =</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
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;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
QuIndex____QuId____QuFlux =</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
QU01 P_1504-167 0.52</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
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;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
TrkStnId____TrackStart____TrackEnd =</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
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DdorEpoch = 2014-228T02:25:00;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
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ddorConfigProfileId = 202F2;</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;font-family:Courier New"><br>
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Regards<br>
________________________________________<br>
Martin UNAL<br>
Ground Operation Manager<br>
Ground Facilities Ops HSO - ONO<br>
H-376<br>
ESOC<br>
Robert-Bosch Strasse 5<br>
64 293 Darmstadt<br>
Germany<br>
Tel +49 6151 90 2959 <br>
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