<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Of course we shall not confuse OID frames with Idle Packets. <div><br></div><div>Having said this, I have dome doubts about storing this as managed parameter (no matter for frames or packets) as we cannot be sure this will always be a fixed pattern. </div><div><br></div><div>BTW in the C&S wg some time ago there was an issue with OID frames generating spectrum issues because of the constant pattern. </div><div><br></div><div>Just my cent, but worth a discussion </div><div><br></div><div>Gian Paolo<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 31. Jan 2018, at 21:59, Moore, Kevan L. (MSFC-HP27)[HOSC SERVICES CONTRACT] <<a href="mailto:kevan.l.moore@nasa.gov">kevan.l.moore@nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">I came to the same conclusino as John and had already implemented a PHYSICAL_CHANNEL_OID_Frame_Content managed
parameter. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The pattern repeats to fill the required space.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">From:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> SLS-SLP [<a href="mailto:sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Pietras<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Sls-slp] Idle Packet Idle Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m sorry that I wasn’t able to participate in today’s telecon, due to a prior commitment. Having not participated, I don’t know the final fate of the SPP book. But there is one other item that I came across
that I’d like to bring to the WG’s attention as something else to consider in the process of cleaning up (or replacing) the SPP book.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The Packet Processing function of the AOS SDLP includes generation of Idle Packets when no packets containing user data are available. The definition of “Idle Packet” is cross-referenced to the SPP book.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The SPP book states “If the Packet is an Idle Packet, the User Data Field shall contain Idle Data”, and follows this with the NOTE “The bit pattern of Idle Data is not specified
in this Recommendation.” The trail goes cold there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A similar situation exists for the multiplexing schemes for VCs and MCs (that is they are not defined by the SDLP Recommended Standards), but in those cases the multiplexing schemes
are identified as Managed Parameters. Given that “Managed Parameters” is another way of saying “stuff that has to be configured that is not defined in the book itself”, I suggest that the packet Idle Pattern also be treated as a Managed Parameter.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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