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Thank you very much for taking the time to comment on this draft USLP White book. My answers below.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>" <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 4:05 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Kazz, Greg J (313B)" <<a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov">greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: Newest Version of USLP White Book on CWE as of Oct 22<br>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I had a quick look at the document and reported some comments as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 1.1. It is stated that “this specification describes the data flow the data link layer process that reside between physical and network
layer”. On the contrary, I think that this specification addresses only the data services sublayer, with no specification details about the C&S sublayer. ** For the most part this is true. Except the Data Services Sublayer has an interface to be expressed
above it and below it. Note that in all of the previous CCSDS link layer documents, there has always been a section devoted to at least </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">“</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Services
provided from the lower layers</span><font size="1">”</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;">. </span><font size="1">I</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> consider that a detail that needs to be expressed later in Section 2 **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 1.3. In the rest of the document it is not clear how the mentioned three sublayers (data services, session operation management, and C&S)
are interfaced and then positioned within the Data Link layer. In particular it is not clear to me whether SOM (also for how it is described in D) is actually a dedicated sublayer or a service. ** We will work out with C&S WG the USLP Data services with them
on </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">Monday</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> PM in Darmstadt. We have created utilization profiles to describe this. </span><font size="1">I</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> will
email them to you after </span><font size="1">I</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> finish this email. The SOM is a joint meeting topic on </span><font size="1">Thursday</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 1.6. For what concerns ordering of the annexes, if I’m not wrong, you should first have all normative annexes and then informative, whereas
Annex F is normative. ** OK. </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">I</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> have now left a note for Tom Gannett to update if necessary **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 1.7.2. I’ve the impression that some of the definitions are the result of merging from definitions contained in the existing TM, Prox-1,
and TC books. Hence, the wording can be improved. In particular, return and forward link definition is unclear. Furthermore, it is later stated (section 2.1.1) that this book addresses also space-to-space links. In this regard, I’ve some troubles in seeing
the application of the provided definitions for forward and return links. Moreover, these definitions refer to caller and responders, which by definition are concerned only in proximity links. ** Please offer us some suggestions on how to change or augment
the </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">“</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">return</span><font size="1">”</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> and </span><font size="1">“</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;">forward</span><font size="1">”</font><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> link
definitions. **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 2.1.1. Protocol Data Unit (PDU) is referred here but not considered in the sections devoted to the terms defined in ISO/OSI (section 1.7.1.1).
At the end, there is a reference to B4, which currently does not contain any indications about USLP and I’m not aware of any project defined to update that book. Figure 2.1 is quite controversial. As stated by Keith, OSI protocol stack should contain the network
layer and probably it would be worth going up to the application layer (then also including the presentation layer to be coherent with OSI protocol stack). I’ve also some problems with the CCSDS protocols stack. In particular, the data services sublayer contains
protocols and also functions (frame delimiting and validation): this should be harmonized. On the other hand, the C&S sublayer only contains channel coding techniques, with no mention of sync functions. Another point is the fact that presently LTP cannot work
on top of TM, AOS, Proximity, or TC, but it needs to be transported by the CCSDS encapsulation service, which is also missing in this figure. Finally, other protocols potentially running above the CCSDS Data Link layer are not depicted at all, such as IP,
Space Packet, etc. ** LTP can run directly under USLP, because USLP does not require Encapsulation Service. It provides direct insertion of PDUs. Agree that C&S sublayer does provide Code Synchronization Function but not frame synchronization function. We
put the functions there just for discussion purposes and not for final diagram. You are correct that Space </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">D</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Ata
Link Protocols GB will need to be updated once we agree on USLP fundamentals **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 2.2.2. The last sentence contains “shall”. Section 2 of CCSDS blue books is an informative section (as far as I know) and therefore no
requirements can be stated in there. ** </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">I</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> have adjusted it **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Section 2.2.3.7. It is quite unclear what the TFDF tunneling service is. Also in the rest of the document, I can’t see the difference
with respect to the packet service. I was wondering whether this has to do with a kind of L2 switching, but still far from my understanding of tunneling concepts. ** We realize that this topic is controversial but left it in to see if agencies find value in
it or not. We will expound on it at the meetings **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 2.3.1, bullet point at the end. If my understanding is correct, it is stated that retransmission function is available. I’m fine with COP-1
that is coming from the TC; the text however is not clear about the scope of its application. It is limited only to the uplink forward or also to the return downlink (this would be new with respect to the COP-1 specification)? ** </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">I</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> will
get back to you on this one **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Section 3.2.2. Differently from what depicted in Figure 2.1., it is stated that service data units are PDU of the network layer protocol. Please
harmonise. ** aren</span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="1">’</font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">t packets typically a network layer PDU ? We stay that they are primarily but not
exclusively from the network layer **<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Section 4.1.1. It is stated that the transfer frame header should be 7 or 14 octets, whereas figure 4-1 shows ‘7-14’. According to the
description proposed in 4.1.2, I think 7-14 is correct, whereas ‘7 or 14’ is not. ** We will adjust to say 7 to 14 **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Section 4.1.2. Frame length is 2 octets, I’d better say 16 bits, as done for the SCID. *<span style="font-weight: bold;"> OK</span>*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Section 4.1.5.1 What is data structuring rules (figure 4-4)? In section .4.1.5.1.1 segmentation rules is addressed instead. Harmonisation
of the terminology is necessary. *<span style="font-weight: bold;"> We eliminated the duality of terms</span>*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Section 5.1. In Table 5.1, for the FEC code, I think it is better to explicitly state which codes *<span style="font-weight: bold;">
OK </span>*and related bit pattern should be used. *<span style="font-weight: bold;"> not sure about specifying bit pattern in this document</span>*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Section 5.2, Table 5.2. It is not clear to me how I can put an integer value for the variable length. For example in the TC specification,
one can indicate the maximum frame length acceptable. Similar comment for Tables 5.3 and 5.4. ** Agree. Will use Fixed or Maximum Frame Length Acceptable **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Annex F: I would see this part directly in the core of the document. Section 6.3.3 introduces as parameter ‘QoS’, which is however not
properly defined in the rest of the document. In TC for instance ‘service type’ was defined with clear explanation in the rest of that book. In section 6.4.2, GMAP is indicated as parameter, but actually the considered primitives use instead GVCID. *<span style="font-weight: bold;">
GVCID will be replaced with GMAP ID in this annex F </span>* In section 6.5.2, the primitives contain the parameter PID, which is however not included in the parameters discussion some paragraphs above. Furthermore the indication primitive contain the QoS
parameter, which is not present in the request primitive: is it correct? ** This annex F requires extra work. We found the number of primatives to be too overwhelming to put them directly into Section 3, so we moved them to a normative annex instead **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a> [<a href="mailto:sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kazz, Greg J (312B)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 22, 2015 22:25<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Sls-slp] Newest Version of USLP White Book on CWE as of Oct 22<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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revision. Also we have tried to be more consistent with the outlines followed by TC, TM, and AOS where applicable.</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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