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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; ">You commented, "<font size="2" face="sans-serif">One more comment: DLL-60 says "</font><font size="2" face="Arial">Time Correlation Process (notional)</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif">".</font></div>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; ">The term notional is mentioned only once in the document (i.e. here).</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; ">Should its meaning in PICS context be clarified (or alternatively deleted)?"</font></div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri,sans-serif">I recommend in the PICS DLL-60 reads "Time Correlation Process".</font></div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,</font></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:15 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Kazz, Greg J (313B)" <<a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov">greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: Quick comments for PICS: [Sls-slp] Proximity-1 Data Link Specification for final SLP WG review<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Greg,</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif"> Just about DLL-1.</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">DLL-1 should be removed if it refer to section 3.2.</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Making DLL-1 to refer to 3.2.1 (instead of 3.2) makes the second comment superseded.</font><br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">I am not sure I agree about your view of section 5.4 and I would rather use "conditional items" also because as far as I see this is the only case (i.e. no big burden implied). However we can go Pink with the present form (except
the corrections you agreed) and discuss the matter in San Antonio to generate RIDs (if needed).</font><br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">One more comment: DLL-60 says "</font><font size="2" face="Arial">Time Correlation Process (notional)</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif">".</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">The term notional is mentioned only once in the document (i.e. here).</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Should its meaning in PICS context be clarified (or alternatively deleted)?</font><br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Ciao</font> <br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Gian Paolo</font> <br>
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<td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">03/09/2013 22:58</font> </td>
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<font size="4" face="Calibri">G.P.</font> <br>
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<font size="4" face="Calibri">Thanks for your comments!</font> <br>
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<font size="4" face="Calibri">My answers are in **…. ** below.</font> <br>
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<font size="1" color="#004080" face="Calibri">Greg Kazz</font> <br>
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<font size="2" color="#004080" face="Calibri">Systems Engineering Section (Section 313)</font><br>
<font size="2" color="#004080" face="Calibri">Jet Propulsion Laboratory</font> <br>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>From: </b>"</font><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</u></font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri">" <</font><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</u></font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri">><b><br>
Date: </b>Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:59 AM<b><br>
To: </b>"Kazz, Greg J (313B)" <</font><a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</u></font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri">><b><br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">A few very quick comments.</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Of course there may be more for similar cases.</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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regards</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> <br>
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Gian Paolo</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
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A2.2 PICS</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Should DLL-1 better refer to 3.2.1 instead of 3.2?</font> <br>
<font size="4" face="Calibri">** Yes 3.2.1 **</font> <br>
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DLL-1 should be removed as individual subsections of 3.2 are addressed and moreover DLL-1 as it stands now is incorrect/confusing as it includes also options?</font><br>
<font size="4" face="Calibri">** We need users to comply with both 3.2.1 and 3.2.2. The subparts of 3.2.2. are useful to see because they contain valid values associated with these parameters. **</font><br>
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Why the description of Option 1 is with lower case o (i.e. o.1 instead of O.1 as in the table)? ** I think it was a typo. It was corrected as all capital letters in my version **<br>
Why DLL-61 is in bold? (this is not the only one in bold...) ** I think this is Tom's way of showing a heading. **</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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Is it correct to mark all the items within e.g. 5.4 as optional? **<b> </b>Yes that was deliberately done by the WG **<br>
If you read section 5.4, it contains mandatory requirements and options.<br>
This was actually a case for conditional items as follows:<br>
- DLL-63 / 5.4.2.1 Optional</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> </font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
- DLL-64 / 5.4.2.4 Mandatory if DLL-62 Supported<br>
Is it correct giving up about conditional items in PICS? ** In this case, yes **</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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DLL-61 / 5.4 should not be listed as the individual requirements are listed<br>
DLL-63 should refer to 5.4.2.1 and not to 5.4.2 ** I agree, DLL-63 refers to 5.4.2.1 **<br>
As section 5.4 is written, it is not visible that this feature is optional ==> should 5.4.1 be made optional? **<b></b>yes **</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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PICS take - as expected - several pages.</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> </font>
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Why not shortening some cases as e.g. DLL-52 / 5.2 ?<br>
In other words why not having only a row for DLL-52 and removing the 8 following rows?<br>
Alternatively why not indenting the following 8 row and using identifiers as DLL-52.x?</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
**<b> </b>Up to Tom Gannett how best to deal with indexing or showing subsets of information within the PICS **</font><br>
<font size="4" face="Calibri">** We could shorten the DLL PICS, however I tried to strike a compromise between the shortest PICS Proforma possible vs conveying some redundancy that helps the user check through the items by listing the key ones in detail. If
I hide too much information, people might have the tendency to forget about it. Explicitly listing it (but not regurgatating the entire text) seemed to be the best compromise **</font><br>
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<font size="4" face="Calibri">**Thoughts from other SLP WG members ??? **</font> <br>
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<td width="88%"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"Kazz, Greg J (313B)" <</font><a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov"><font size="1" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u>greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</u></font></a><font size="1" face="sans-serif">></font></td>
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<td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">20/08/2013 00:14</font><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font></td>
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Dear SLP WG members,</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> <br>
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Tom Gannett has provided us now with a pre-approval version for the CESG of the Proximity-1 Space Data Link Protocol.</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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Please review the attached documents and send me and Tom any comments you have (redlines of the clean version would work, if you have the bandwidth to send a 20 Megabyte file !) to me and Tom by Sept. 13.</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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There are two files in the CWE directory below. One is a red-lined version so that you can see the changes made and also a clean version.</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>
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