<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Greg,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Just
about DLL-1.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">DLL-1 should be removed if it refer
to section 3.2.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Making DLL-1 to refer to 3.2.1 (instead
of 3.2) makes the second comment superseded.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am not sure I agree about your view
of section 5.4 and I would rather use "conditional items" also
because as far as I see this is the only case (i.e. no big burden implied).
However we can go Pink with the present form (except the corrections you
agreed) and discuss the matter in San Antonio to generate RIDs (if needed).</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">One more comment: DLL-60 says "</font><font size=2 face="Arial">Time
Correlation Process (notional)</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif">".</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The term notional is mentioned only
once in the document (i.e. here).</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Should its meaning in PICS context be
clarified (or alternatively deleted)?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Ciao</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Gian Paolo</font>
<br>
<br>
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:</font>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org"
<sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org></font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">CCSDS Secretariat <tomg@aiaa.org></font>
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:</font>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">03/09/2013 22:58</font>
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:</font>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: Quick comments for PICS: [Sls-slp]
Proximity-1 Data Link Specification
for final SLP WG review</font>
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by:</font>
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<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">G.P.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">Thanks for your comments!</font>
<br>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">My answers are in **…. ** below.</font>
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<br><font size=1 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Greg Kazz</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#004080 face="Calibri">EEISE Group Supervisor</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Systems Engineering Section
(Section 313)</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Jet Propulsion Laboratory</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena
CA 91109</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">MS 301-490</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">(818) 393-6529 (office)</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri"><b>From: </b>"</font><a href=mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">"
<</font><a href=mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">><b><br>
Date: </b>Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:59 AM<b><br>
To: </b>"Kazz, Greg J (313B)" <</font><a href=mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">><b><br>
Subject: </b>Quick comments for PICS: [Sls-slp] Proximity-1 Data Link Specification
for final SLP WG review</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">A few very quick comments.</font><font size=4 face="Calibri">
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Of course there may be more for similar cases.</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
regards</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Gian Paolo</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
----------------------------------------------------</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
A2.2 PICS</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Should DLL-1 better refer to 3.2.1 instead of 3.2?</font>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">** Yes 3.2.1 **</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
DLL-1 should be removed as individual subsections of 3.2 are addressed
and moreover DLL-1 as it stands now is incorrect/confusing as it includes
also options?</font>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">** We need users to comply with both 3.2.1
and 3.2.2. The subparts of 3.2.2. are useful to see because they contain
valid values associated with these parameters. **</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Why the description of Option 1 is with lower case o (i.e. o.1 instead
of O.1 as in the table)? ** I think it was a typo. It was corrected as
all capital letters in my version **<br>
Why DLL-61 is in bold? (this is not the only one in bold...) **
I think this is Tom's way of showing a heading. **</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Is it correct to mark all the items within e.g. 5.4 as optional? **<b>
</b>Yes that was deliberately done by the WG **<br>
If you read section 5.4, it contains mandatory requirements and options.<br>
This was actually a case for conditional items as follows:<br>
- DLL-63 / 5.4.2.1 Optional</font><font size=4 face="Calibri">
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
- DLL-64 / 5.4.2.4 Mandatory if DLL-62 Supported<br>
Is it correct giving up about conditional items in PICS? ** In this case,
yes **</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Moreover <br>
DLL-61 / 5.4 should not be listed as the individual requirements are listed<br>
DLL-63 should refer to 5.4.2.1 and not to 5.4.2 ** I agree, DLL-63 refers
to 5.4.2.1 **<br>
As section 5.4 is written, it is not visible that this feature is optional
==> should 5.4.1 be made optional? **<b> </b>yes **</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
PICS take - as expected - several pages.</font><font size=4 face="Calibri">
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Why not shortening some cases as e.g. DLL-52 / 5.2 ?<br>
In other words why not having only a row for DLL-52 and removing the 8
following rows?<br>
Alternatively why not indenting the following 8 row and using identifiers
as DLL-52.x?</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
**<b> </b>Up to Tom Gannett how best to deal with indexing or showing subsets
of information within the PICS **</font>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">** We could shorten the DLL PICS, however
I tried to strike a compromise between the shortest PICS Proforma possible
vs conveying some redundancy that helps the user check through the items
by listing the key ones in detail. If I hide too much information, people
might have the tendency to forget about it. Explicitly listing it (but
not regurgatating the entire text) seemed to be the best compromise **</font>
<br>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri">**Thoughts from other SLP WG members ???
**</font>
<br><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<td width=88%><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Kazz, Greg J (313B)"
<</font><a href=mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</u></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif">></font>
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:</font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
</font>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"</font><a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org"><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</u></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"
<</font><a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org"><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</u></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif">></font>
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<td valign=top><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc:</font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
</font>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Thomas Gannett <</font><a href=mailto:tomg@aiaa.org><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>tomg@aiaa.org</u></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif">></font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:</font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">20/08/2013 00:14</font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
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<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:</font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
</font>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[Sls-slp] Proximity-1 Data Link Specification
for final SLP WG review</font>
<tr valign=top>
<td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by:</font><font size=3 face="Calibri">
</font>
<td><a href="mailto:sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</u></font></a></table>
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</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
Dear SLP WG members,</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> <br>
</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
Tom Gannett has provided us now with a pre-approval version for the CESG
of the Proximity-1 Space Data Link Protocol.</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
Please review the attached documents and send me and Tom any comments you
have (redlines of the clean version would work, if you have the bandwidth
to send a 20 Megabyte file !) to me and Tom by Sept. 13.</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
There are two files in the CWE directory below. One is a red-lined version
so that you can see the changes made and also a clean version.</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=4 color=blue face="Calibri"><u><br>
</u></font><a href=http://tinyurl.com/kzjz38z><font size=4 color=blue face="Calibri"><b><u>http://tinyurl.com/kzjz38z</u></b></font></a><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
Best regards,</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> <br>
</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
Greg</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=4 face="Calibri"><br>
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Greg Kazz</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=1 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
EEISE Group Supervisor</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
Systems Engineering Section (Section 313)<br>
Jet Propulsion Laboratory</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena CA 91109<br>
MS 301-490</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
(818) 393-6529 (office)</font><font size=4 face="Calibri"> </font>
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