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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"></head><body style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 20px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>All,</div><div><br></div><div>I will make this email very short in the attempt to move us forward.</div><div><br></div><div>Enrico suggested: "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; ">There are too many problems with the current books to delay delivering corrected versions. One idea would be not to do an agency review but to call this delivery a corrigendum." </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; ">I agree the result of the Boulder meeting should be technical corrigendums of the PL, C&S, and DLL Prox-1 books. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; "><br></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Before these meetings, we need to agree what are the <u>baseline documents</u> for discussion at Boulder.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">This is my understanding of our current baseline:</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></div><ol><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Physical Layer book SLS<span style="font-style: italic">RFM-11-19 published by Enrico in his email on Oct 6 see attached.</span></span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-style: italic">C&S Sublayer book SLS-RFM-11-20 published by Enrico in his email on Oct 6 see attached.</span></span></font></li><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 18px; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; ">DLL book - Prox-1 Data Link Oct 25 2011 includes ESA see attached. (most comprehesive and up to date version)</span></li></ol><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 18px; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; ">Note 3: Before today I did not realize that Enrico's version of DLL book on Oct 6 did not include NASA Electra team comments. Not sure why since we have been publishing these to distribution before any deadlines. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 18px; font-style: italic; ">Strongly recommend we start with number 3 document at the SLP meeting and resolve differences (published before in word file: Comments to ESA on DLL Oct 18 11. )</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i>I hope we can all agree to these documents as the baseline set. I am sure we can resolve any differences of opinion at the meetings we have in these books.</i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i>We also need to make a decision at the Boulder meeting about if and when to add LDPC to the Prox-1 standard based upon the LDPC update to the the C&S book already provided before the deadline. </i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i>I am also in agreement that we should do our best to generate PINK SHEETS to the corrigendums we generate in Boulder to address the later breaking inputs.These are the ones that would go out to agency review based upon the timeline we agree to.</i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i>Best regards,</i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i>Greg</i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 18px; font-style: italic; "><br></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; "><br></span></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wed, 26 Oct 2011 03:57:40 -0700<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</a>>, Matthew Cosby <<a href="mailto:mcosby@qinetiq.com">mcosby@qinetiq.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "Kazz, Greg J (313B)" <<a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov">greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>, sls-slp <<a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: UC [Sls-slp] Updated Prox-1 Data Link Layer book Now Available<br></div><div><br></div><font size="2"><p>I do agree with Enrico.<br><br></p></font><hr><font size="2"><p><b> From: </b>Enrico Vassallo<br><b> Sent: </b>26/10/2011 12:07 CEDT<br><b> To: </b>"Cosby Matthew" <<a href="mailto:MCOSBY@qinetiq.com">MCOSBY@qinetiq.com</a>><br><b> Cc: </b>Gian Paolo Calzolari; "Kazz, Greg J \(313B\)" <<a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov">greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>; <a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><b> Subject: </b>RE: UC [Sls-slp] Updated Prox-1 Data Link Layer book Now Available<br></p></font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Matt,</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">thanks for your inputs. Note that the
deadline for input papers expired one week ago. Additionally, we have an
internal ESA problem since the EXOMARS team did not deliver any request
for changes to us.</font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">I propose the following way forward:</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">1) With priority one we discuss in Boulder
the changes necessary to align the 3 books for a mission starting today
so that we eliminate the many inconsistencies we found. This can be done
by looking at the inputs delivered in time for the meeting. 3 clean and
correct books can be delivered at the end of the meeting.</font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">2) With a view to integrating comments
requesting additional capabilities (inputs from you and Greg, delivered
late), we could dedicate the time that remains from activity 1and maybe
generate a new set of drafts that should remain in the WG. By the next
meeting, we can work out the internal ESA problems and check that EXOMARS
is approved as we know it today (if the Russians come on board by next
January, we may need to add additional non CCSDS standard modes......)</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Given that the new features in 2 require
independent verification as for CCSDS rules, I would recommend that we
go ahead with agency review of the documents resulting from 1. In two yearsfrom now, we may be able to submit the documents initiated in 2 for an
add-on review. There are too many problems with the current books to delay
delivering corrected versions. One idea would be not to do an agency reviewbut to call this delivery a corrigendum. In this case, we can have only
one agency review once the new capabilities have been properly added and
verified.</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Let's discuss it in Boulder so as to
avoid too many emails .....</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Regards, Enrico</font><br><br><br><table width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">From:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"Cosby Matthew" <<a href="mailto:MCOSBY@qinetiq.com">MCOSBY@qinetiq.com</a>></font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">To:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></font></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Cc:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>>,
<<a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</a>>, "Kazz, Greg J \(313B\)" <<a href="mailto:greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov">greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov</a>></font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">26/10/2011 11:41</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">RE: UC [Sls-slp] Updated Prox-1 Data
Link Layer book Now Available</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr noshade=""><br><br><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">Greg,</font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial"> </font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">Sorry for the delay
</font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial"> </font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">I have now added a new document
to the CWE ( </font><a href="http://tinyurl.com/3n9qx9r"><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">http://tinyurl.com/3n9qx9r</font></a><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">
- same link as below) that contains the comments from UKSA on the P1 Data
Link Layer. This has been done from the ExoMars lander point of view.</font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial"> </font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">I have also added the document
that has the proposed changes to the hail for Set V(R) which was presented
in Berlin.</font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial"> </font><br><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial">Matt.</font><p><font size="2" color="#000080" face="Arial"><b>Matthew Cosby</b></font><font size="1" color="#000080" face="Arial"><i><br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kazz, Greg J (313B)<b><br>
Sent:</b> 19 October 2011 19:50<b><br>
To:</b> <a href="mailto:sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-slp@mailman.ccsds.org</a><b><br>
Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>; <a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</a><b><br>
Subject:</b> [Sls-slp] Updated Prox-1 Data Link Layer book Now Available</font><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri">Dear SLS-SLP members,</font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri">Please find a new draft review version
of the Prox-1 Data Link Layer recommendation in: (filename: Prox1 Data
Link Oct 14 2011 includes ESA)</font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font><br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/3n9qx9r"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><b><u>http://tinyurl.com/3n9qx9r</u></b></font></a><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>There are a few ESA comments that are
pending resolution. You can find these and NASA comments concerning them
in the same URL with filename:</b></font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>Comments to ESA on DLL Oct 18</b></font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>Best regards,</b></font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>Greg Kazz</b></font><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>Chairman SLS-SLP WG</b></font><p><font size="1" face="Arial">This email and any attachments to it may be
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