<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Dear Greg,</font>
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be informed that the WG, discussing </font><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">RID
ESA-GPC-27</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif">, decided to remove the
longest block size to be studied.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">Gian Paolo Calzolari</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">Dear Greg,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"> there
are some "historical" reasons for that TBD that would take long
to write.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">On the same topic I have subimmeted
a RID ESA-GPC-27 (see below for the CWE location)</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">Therefore the matyter is under WG
discussion and I take the occasion to silicite WG Memebrs to provide their
position with respect to the above mentione RID ESA-GPC-27.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS">Gian Paolo Calzolari</font>
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Robert Bosch Str. 5<br>
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Tel +49-6151-902913 fax +49-6151-902962<br>
http://www.esa.int/esoc Email: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari[at]esa.int
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Dear CCSDS Coding & Sync WG,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">I just want to confirm that the maximum
allowable transfer frame size is 1115 octets when one uses a Turbo code.
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">A NASA mission in pre-phase A has approached
me to ask if CCSDS has completed any further studies per the comment in
the current standard below to allow missions to use the 2048 octet
frame size. Have any further studies been carried out or are
planned by CCSDS ?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Currently Section 8 of the TM Sync and
Channel Coding (</font><a href=http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/131x0b1.pdf target=_blank><font size=2 color=#29375b face="Calibri"><b><u>CCSDS
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) </b></font><font size=2 face="Calibri">states:</font>
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<br><font size=3><b>8.6.2 </b>Performance for only the following information
block lengths (i.e., Transfer Frame lengths) has been validated by CCSDS
and approved for use (values are in octets): </font>
<br><font size=3>a) 223; </font>
<br><font size=3>b) 446; </font>
<br><font size=3>c) 892; </font>
<br><font size=3>d) 1115; </font>
<br><font size=3>e) 2048. </font>
<br><font size=3>NOTE – Interleaver parameters for the length 2048 octets
are under study by the CCSDS. Until finalized, use of this option is not
recommended.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Looking over the pink sheets (ccsds 131.0-P-1.1)
I did not see any new information on this section.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Thanks and best regards,</font>
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