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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>We only need these frames for synchronous links to maintain the link synchronicity. So how about Synchronously Inserted Idle Data Frame or SIID Frame. The term only is very misleading. Or Synchronously Inserted Frame with Idle Data SIFID or is an acronym with more than 3 letters verboten. <BR>
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On 3/24/09 4:11 PM, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">“OID Frame” = “Only Idle Data_field” Frame :-)</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">‘FDFI’ Frame for ‘Frame Data Field Idle’ Frame looks recursive :-)</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">More correct would be "Only Idle Data in Data Field" Frame = OIDDF Frame</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">We shall set the same term everywhere.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">Idle Frame is misleading.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">OID is not perfect but more correct and already defined for Packet TM Frame.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">Then the simplest is to say that OID Frame is a short form for OIDDF Frame.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">Let's discuss it in Colorado otherwise we enter in a loop.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">Ciao</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">Gian Paolo</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">sls-slp-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org wrote on 23-03-2009 19:55:21:<BR>
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> All,</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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> The problem with the term, “OID Frame” or “Only Idle Data” Frame is<BR>
> that it still doesn’t clearly convey the fact that the PAYLOAD or <BR>
> FRAME DATA FIELD of the frame contains idle data, and that other <BR>
> fields of the transfer frame such as Insert Zone (AOS), Frame <BR>
> Secondary Header (TM), or OCF (all) DO NOT contain Idle data.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">> Until we have a clear way of specifying that concept, we haven’t <BR>
> really made progress unfortunately.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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> So I believe the distinction we are trying to make is about frames <BR>
> that contain idle data in the Frame Data Field, therefore ‘FDFI’ <BR>
> Frame for ‘Frame Data Field Idle’.</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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> Your comments?</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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> thanks,</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">> Greg</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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> From: Greenberg, Edward <BR>
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:03 AM<BR>
> To: Kazz, Greg J<BR>
> Subject: Re: ESA input for: [SLS-SLP] JAXA RIDs on AOS + TM Pink Sheets</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">> <BR>
> OID is Only Idle Data. If frame contains Insert Data then it isn’t <BR>
> OID. You could call it NFDI for No Frame Data Included<BR>
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> On 3/23/09 8:54 AM, "Kazz, Greg J" <greg.j.kazz@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE="Monaco, Courier New">> 1) An Idle Packet carries no useful data: This applies to an Idle Space<BR>
> Packet and to an Idle (or Fill) Encapsulation Packet (see below).<BR>
> However, the AOS Insert Service uses the Insert Field of every Transfer<BR>
> Frame on the Physical Channel, including the Idle Frames. Therefore, an<BR>
> Idle Frame can carry useful data so the name "Idle Frame" is not fully<BR>
> appropriate. The Pink Sheets provide the new name "OID Frame".</FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
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