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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Following your approval and the approval of Ignacio, I will forward the document and the resolution to Tom to initiate CMC publication poll.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regarding the formalization of SA data base parameters, the important point, as you say, is that both ends have an identical understanding of the parameters. In that respect,
SDLS extended procedures (355.1-B-1) defines further the SA parameters, although not in a formal way. Syntax and semantics of those SA parameters could be formally specified in a later issue of this standard if CCSDS comes up with a commonly agreed way of
doing that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Gilles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gilles MOURY</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>De :</b> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 9 février 2022 20:29<br>
<b>À :</b> Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int; Moury Gilles <Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><br>
<b>Cc :</b> CCSDS Secretariat <secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org>; sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org; Thomas Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>; CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SDLS WG resolution to publish 355.0-B-2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Gilles and Ignacio,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have reviewed the document and the resolution and I support the resolution to publish.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">That said, I will note that this document exhibits a situation in regard the “SA data base”, which shows up in sec 2.3.1.2 and that is related to the Managed Parameters table in sec 6.2.1, that also occurs in other CCSDS
documents where we define “managed parameters” and MIBs. This issue, as Jonathan Wilmot has pointed out before, is that we have a practice of defining these MIBs, and this SA DB, using only abstract data and we tend to also treat them as not really a full
fledged part of the standard for interoperability. While it is true that neither the SA DB, nor the typical MIB, is directly involved in peer-to-peer data exchanges, having an identical understanding of the parameters, their meanings, and values in the entities
on both ends of the exchange is essential.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am not trying to place a requirement, at this point, on this standard. But I am suggesting that we consider adopting a practice of formalizing the syntax and semantics of these kinds of parameter tables, if only to
provide more concrete guidance to the implementors as to what these the data types, fields sizes, and acceptable values are for these key parameters that do, in fact, manage and control interoperability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As I noted, this is a subject that Jonathan has already brought up before. I’d like to suggest that we follow up on this topic in an upcoming CESG meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"<a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 12:29 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Gilles Moury <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Peter Shames <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>, CCSDS Secretariat <<a href="mailto:secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org">secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, Tom Gannett <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: SDLS WG resolution to publish 355.0-B-2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Gilles,</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This one was pending on my side.</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have reviewed the document and the resolution.
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just added a correction on the issues for certain referenced Blue Books.</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I support its publication.</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Kind regards,</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Moury Gilles" <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>></span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Ignacio Aguilar-Sanchez" <<a href="mailto:ignacio.aguilar.sanchez@esa.int">ignacio.aguilar.sanchez@esa.int</a>>,
"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>></span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, "Thomas Gannett" <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>>, "CCSDS Secretariat" <<a href="mailto:secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org">secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">23/12/2021 16:42</span><span lang="EN-US">
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">SDLS WG resolution to publish 355.0-B-2</span><span lang="EN-US">
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Ignacio and Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">SDLS WG has reached consensus on publication of issue 2 of SDLS Core Protocol Recommendation (355.0-B-2) following successful RIDs disposition of pink sheets agency review. Please find attached:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">- WG publication resolution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">- Draft issue 2 blue book including all RIDs disposition<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">- RIDs dispositions files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">I wish you a merry Christmas!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Gilles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Gilles MOURY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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