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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One solution to avoid the use of a challenge-response system and stay with the simple CRC for on-board key checking is to compute the CRC on BOTH
 the Key-ID and the key itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ideally, what we know as a “key” would be a “Meta-Key”, comprising :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The Key ID, unique identifier of the key for the whole mission duration,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The Key itself (secret random data)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The CRC, computed on the Key ID and the key itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This “Meta-Key” should be considered as an single entity, not splittable, being stored, transferred and distributed as is (on-board AND at ground
 level, from generation to destruction).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sls-sea-dls-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:sls-sea-dls-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org]
<b>De la part de</b> Daniel.Fischer@esa.int<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> dimanche 17 avril 2016 13:13<br>
<b>À :</b> sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Sls-sea-dls] Key Verification using CRC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear all,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I was discussing our new approach to key verification using the onboard-stored CRCs with David,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">He came up with a keen observation.  </span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The CRC-based key verification is somewhat weaker than one based on a challenge-response. The reason is that the CRC ensues you that the key at a certain slot is still OK in terms of integrity.
 In contrast to the challenge-response approach it DOES NOT tell you that the key is the same as the key with same key ID on ground.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is this an issue for us? What do you think? The only way we have to check key synchronisation is to use a key for actual traffic protection and see if it works.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">What do you think?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Daniel</span> <br>
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Dr. Daniel Fischer<br>
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