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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In reply to Daniel’s question, I can see at least two use cases of nested TLV messages :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dump of the “security log”, where the overall message complies with TLV format, with many embedded TLV messages inside (at least one
 per event),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Key upload message (OTAR), each key being a TLV massage in itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sls-sea-dls-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:sls-sea-dls-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org]
<b>De la part de</b> Daniel.Fischer@esa.int<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 27 août 2015 09:55<br>
<b>À :</b> sls-sea-dls@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Sls-sea-dls] [SDLS Extended Procedures] TLV Format Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear all,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I am working on the update of the Extended Procedures book.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">One of the things agreed during the last meeting was to describe better the various possibilities of the TLV format. One of the items to be addressed in nested procedures. i.e. putting another
 TLV inside the value field. While I have no problem adding this to the spec, I am wondering if there is a use case for this in the scope of the Extended Procedures. Looking at the various proposed procedures, I could not find any.</span>
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So if there is no use case for nesting in the scope of the book, do we really need to specify it?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers,<br>
Daniel</span> <br>
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Dr. Daniel Fischer<br>
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