<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Jean-Luc, Dear
RFM WG Members,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I was asked by
NASA to delay the response to this item until Monday next week due to the
Thanksgiving holiday in the US. Given that NASA brought up the issue along
with CNES, I had no alternative than accepting this request.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Therefore, you
have more time to respond.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">In any case, it
has come to my attention that the SOIS Area Director issued the resolution
to start agency review of this blue book. Therefore, our response may be
superseded by events.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">All the best to
you and Happy Thanksgiving to our NASA colleagues.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Enrico</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Issler
Jean-Luc" <Jean-Luc.Issler@cnes.fr></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"
<Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int>, "sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"
<sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">24/11/20
19:43</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">RE:
[Sls-rfm] Fw: SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft
Blue Book</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dear
All,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">CNES
agrees with the proposed update</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Very
best regards</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Jean-Luc</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>De
:</b> SLS-RFM <sls-rfm-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>De la part de</b>
Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int<b><br>
Envoyé :</b> lundi 23 novembre 2020 16:37<b><br>
À :</b> sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org<b><br>
Objet :</b> [Sls-rfm] Fw: SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications
draft Blue Book</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
All,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
this is my proposed text to be sent to SOIS-WIR.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Basically, it is the agreed WG text apart from the final text included
between </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">>>>
and in red color</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
for those that get the colors in my email.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I decided to remove the book color change from blue to green or orange
since, as remarked by the SLS AD, our justification: </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><br>
If the SOIS-WIR wishes to publish this document, the RFM WG would suggest
a Green Book or, alternatively an Orange Book. A Blue Book has to
have strong simulation and/or analytical results to support a CCSDS protocol.
And results must be confirmed by two agencies. The RFM WG does not
believe this standard has been met given the comments above and a general
lack of solid documented experimental evidence. </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
could be countered by the pending prototypes.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The reason for this major change comes from reading the CCSDS rules and
the SOIS-WIR project. In principle the BB is not published until the relevant
indendent prototypes are available so we may be able to make our point
without creating too much confrontation (agency reviews are normally done
before the protoypes).</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Have a look at it and let me have your comments by Nov 25 (it's just 5
lines.)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Regards, Enrico</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#800080;font-family:Arial"><br>
----- Forwarded by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA on 23/11/20 16:13 -----</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Kevin
K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Cascarano,
Brian (ASC/CSA)" <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Lansdowne, Chatwin (JSC-EV811)" <</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Jonathan Wilmot" <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Ray Wagner" <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Siddhartha Subray" <</span><a href=mailto:Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Stephen Braham" <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">23/11/20
10:01</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft Blue Book</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
<div align=center>
<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Dear Kevin,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
thanks for the provided material that the RFM WG has studied in detail
in relations to the comments and requests for changes provided on the previous
version of the book by the RFM WG.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I am pleased to report that th RFM WG finds the disposition of the comments
about frequency bands in relation to SFCG Lunar Martian recommendations
in line with RFM WG requests.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Concerning the protocols per say, the RFM WG would like to offer instead
the following comments:</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
1. Overall observation to this new passage in
the executive summary: Most of the items listed are general background
material and not specific to the application of the protocol to a planetary
or lunar surface. It’s odd that this information is contained in
the executive summary section which is supposed to be summary of the entire
document. We will suggest below items that should be put in a background
or introductory section.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
2. Page 2-2, item 1): This point is more
background information and should be in an introduction.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
3. Page 2-2, item 2): “Channel models
depend on environment and deployment architecture (see [36], [D23], [D24],
[D25]).” Again while this statement is true, it is very general and more
background information that should be in an introduction section, not a
summary. <br>
4. Page 2-2, item 2): “LTE frame structure
and timing inter-symbol interference (ISI) protection scales to multipath
environments compatible with ~100 km link distances in mountainous terrains
on Earth and will easily address most reasonable planetary, lunar, and
other complex surface topography deployments.” Where is the supporting
documentation to this assertion?</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
5. Page 2-2, item 2): “Delay spread significantly
below 1/15 ms has no impact on LTE symbol decoding. This supports a path-spread
of 10 km for received multipath components. Channel models are studied
in depth in IEEE, 3GPP, and ITU processes, easily supporting the relatively
small networks envisioned for spaceflight networks.” Delay spread is a
function of the channel, and RF frequency. If you have a Lunar channel
with reflection coefficients, carrier frequencies and Doppler that are
different from the terrestrial coefficients, then that impacts the delay
and Doppler spread which could make the total time spread be much longer
and this would impact the architecture of the network. A detailed
study of the Lunar or planetary surface is required to make a detailed
multipath model in order to make a good protocol. We don’t see a
reference or detailed study of the Lunar surface. The closest reference
is [D25], however this article deals with intra-crater communications which
is not likely to be a location for a lunar base.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
6. Page 2-2, item 2): “For additional
technical background see Wireless Network Communications Overview for Space
Mission Operations (reference [D1]).” This reference gives some
fundamental description of multipath but it doesn’t apply the information
to a proposed Lunar or planetary network. Can the WG provide a reference
that actually applies the theory to a planetary application? <br>
7. Page 2-2, item 3): This point is more
background or introduction information and should not be in a summary section.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
8. Page 2-3, item 4): This point is more
background or introduction information and should not be in a summary section.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
9. Page 2-3, item 5): This item is also
background or introductory information.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The RFM WG general comment is that this new section starting at page 2-1
does not address the original three comments which are repeated below for
reference:</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
1. Although document has a lot of information
of the proposed standards, we don’t see requirements that are specific
to Lunar environment, i.e. recommendation for locating base stations and
what is the density of base stations for a required communications utilization.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
2. The channel model is not referenced or specified
in the document. We would like to see a characterization of the RF
environment so that the protocols are justified. The protocols are
designed for an Earth like environment so some justification of why this
will work on the Lunar surface in necessary. <br>
a. How does the multipath effects of the lunar
surface affect the throughput of the links?</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
b. Are there outages created by crater or surface
shadowing?</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
c. Is the multipath frequency selective or flat?
How does this affect the service quality?</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
3. If there are supporting documents to the
protocols for Lunar applications, please list. The reference document
list does not have this. Only terrestrial applications are specified for
3GPP.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial"><br>
>>></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial"><br>
The RFM WG has no evidence that the material included in the book is sufficient
and appropriate for a recommended standard (blue book) until the activities
with the two independent prototpyes (one by NASA/Nokia and one by CSA/Star
Solutions as per </span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/DispFormDraft.aspx?ID=703&Source=http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/AllOpenChartersWithDraftProjects.aspx"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/DispFormDraft.aspx?ID=703&Source=http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/AllOpenChartersWithDraftProjects.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">)
are completed and the results are assessed by the RFM WG.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial"><br>
As such, noting that the BB cannot be published anyway before the two protypes
have been demonstrated, the RFM WG recommends to SOIS-WIR not to proceed
with the Agency Review of this book until the two prototypes are available
to close all the issues highlighted by the RFM WG, assuming that the test
plan for the prototypes will encompass all raised problems.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial"><br>
>>></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
As said before, the RFM WG would be ready to help your group advance in
this very interesting area. Joint working group meetings could be foreseen
after addition of the support task in the RFM charter.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Looking forward to hearing from you,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Enrico</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
(as RFM WG chairperson)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Kevin
K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Jonathan
Wilmot" <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Ray Wagner" <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Lansdowne, Chatwin (JSC-EV811)" <</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA)" <</span><a href=mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>brian.cascarano@canada.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Stephen Braham" <</span><a href=mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>stephen_braham@sfu.ca</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Siddhartha Subray" <</span><a href=mailto:Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">09/11/20
23:11</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft Blue Book</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Dear SLS-RFM Working Group - </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Sincere
thanks to the SLS-RFM WG for review of the draft CCSDS 883-0-B-0 <i>Wireless
Proximity Network Communications</i> Blue Book.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The
SOIS-WIR WG has reviewed all the SLS-RFM comments and have composed dispositions
for all comments.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Please
find attached two documents:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">--
A table-based response to all SLS-RFM comments (v0.10.06.00 SLS-RFM RID
Table and Responses.docx)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">--
The draft BB with the SOIS-WIR proposed updates that address all comments
from SLS-RFM (v0.10.16.16.09 CCSDS 883-0-BBv1-0 Wireless Proximity Network
Communications.docx)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The
attached Blue Book has Track Changes ON, and the only changes in the document
are the updates from the SOIS-WIR WG to address/disposition the SLS-RFM
WG Review Items. You can simply advance to the changes in the Blue
Book with the 'Next Change' button where Reviewing.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">The
primary updates are on page 2-1 and page 2-2, then in Section 2.4.2 starting
on page 2-10 and page 2-11 (this includes the updated Table 2-3).</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Thank you again for the thoughtful review and suggestions. If there
are any additional inputs from your Working Group, the SOIS-WIR WG will
address/disposition during the nominal Agency Review Cycle.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Please let me know if any questions or concerns.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Thanks again SLS-RFM!</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><br>
</span></p>
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<hr></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>
From:</b> </span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:51 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;
Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Subject:</b> SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft Blue
Book</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Dear Kevin,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
RFM WG has concluded discussions on the SOIS-WIR proxy draft BB. The agreed
RFM WG position for SOIS-WIR is attached and is identical to the draft
version submitted by Dennis for advance info.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
The RFM WG is looking forward to receiving SOIS-WIR replies and, if requested
by your group, is ready to be actively involved in solving some of he identified
problems.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Best Regards, Enrico</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Lee,
Dennis K (US 332G)" <</span><a href=mailto:dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Kevin
K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Jonathan
Wilmot" <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Ray Wagner" <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">26/10/20
15:20</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">RE:
RFM Working Group Agenda</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
[attachment "Response to SOIS-WIR on CCSDS 883.0-BBv1_draft3.docx"
deleted by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA] </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Kevin,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Attached
is a compilation of the review feedback received from the RFM working group
on the draft SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communication Blue Book.
They are mainly focused on revisions to the spectrum utilization
(section 2.4.2), Table 2-2, and information regarding lunar base station
density and lunar surface channel models. Please let us know if you
have any questions about the RFM feedback.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Thanks,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Dennis
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>
Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:00 AM<b><br>
To:</b> </span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;
Lee, Dennis K (US 332G) <</span><a href=mailto:dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;
Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">;
Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: RFM Working Group Agenda</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi
SLS-RFM, Dennis, Enrico - </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">@Dennis:
Can you please forward the SLS-RFM comments pertaining to the SOIS-WIR
<i>Wireless Proximity Network Communications </i>draft Blue Book? The
SOIS-WIR WG would like to review the SLS-RFM comments.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Sincere
thanks for your review efforts and valued inputs.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin</span></p>
<div align=center>
<hr></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>
</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:18 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;
Ray Wagner <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Subject:</b> RFM Working Group Agenda</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Hi
Kevin,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
we are fine and hope the same is true for you.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
The RFM WG works with papers submitted two weeks in advance of the meeting
like other SLS groups. In light of the remote meeting for Fall 2020, we
did documents review by correspondence. The agenda does not entail a physical
mtg or videoconf, but just that we work on these issues.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
The WG did review your input and Dennis was about to contact you with our
findings/recommendations.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
So please refrain from sending us another version. Have first a look at
our recommendations and let us know what you think and what you could do
about them. We can still iterate our recommendations with your group, though.
If you are willing to take on board our requests, we can give you a few
weeks to carry it out.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Regards, Enrico</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Kevin
K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Blackwood, Michael D. via CESG-All" <</span><a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Ray
Wagner" <</span><a href=mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Jonathan Wilmot" <</span><a href=mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href=mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial"><u>kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">20/10/20
16:05</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[Cesg-all] RFM Working Group Agenda</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Enrico - <br>
<br>
I hope all is well for you and that you and your family are healthy!</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
I'll send the SOIS-WIR draft Blue Book to you and the SLS-RFM group later
this week so that you will have the latest version of the document that
will go through Secretariat publication processing.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
Please let me know if any questions or concerns.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
Thanks.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
Kevin</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
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<hr></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><br>
From:</b> CESG-All <</span><a href="mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">>
on behalf of </span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:34 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Blackwood, Michael D. via CESG-All <</span><a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><u>cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [Cesg-all] RFM Working Group Agenda</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
Dear Michael,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">the
agenda follows.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Best
Regards, Enrico</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
1. Modulations for high rate uplinks with ranging at 22 GHz</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
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