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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jean-Luc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> SLS-RFM <sls-rfm-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>
<b>De la part de</b> Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 23 novembre 2020 16:37<br>
<b>À :</b> sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Sls-rfm] Fw: SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft Blue Book<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">this is my proposed text to be sent to SOIS-WIR.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Basically, it is the agreed WG text apart from the final text included between
<span style="color:red">>>> and in red color</span> for those that get the colors in my email.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I decided to remove the book color change from blue to green or orange since, as remarked by the SLS AD, our justification:
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">If the SOIS-WIR wishes to publish this document, the RFM WG would suggest a Green Book or, alternatively an Orange Book.  A Blue Book has to have strong simulation and/or analytical results
 to support a CCSDS protocol. And results must be confirmed by two agencies.  The RFM WG does not believe this standard has been met given the comments above and a general lack of solid documented experimental evidence.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">could be countered by the pending prototypes.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The reason for this major change comes from reading the CCSDS rules and the SOIS-WIR project. In principle the BB is not published until the relevant indendent prototypes are available so we may
 be able to make our point without creating too much confrontation (agency reviews are normally done before the protoypes).</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Have a look at it and let me have your comments by Nov 25 (it's just 5 lines.)</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Regards, Enrico</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:purple">----- Forwarded by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA on 23/11/20 16:13 -----</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA)" <</span><a href="mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">brian.cascarano@canada.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Lansdowne, Chatwin (JSC-EV811)" <</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Jonathan
 Wilmot" <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Ray Wagner" <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Siddhartha Subray" <</span><a href="mailto:Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"
 <</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Stephen Braham" <</span><a href="mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">stephen_braham@sfu.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">23/11/20 10:01</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft Blue Book</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Kevin,</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">thanks for the provided material that the RFM WG has studied in detail in relations to the comments and requests for changes provided on the previous version of the book by the RFM WG.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am pleased to report that th RFM WG finds the disposition of the comments about frequency bands in relation to SFCG Lunar Martian recommendations in line with RFM WG requests.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Concerning the protocols per say, the RFM WG would like to offer instead the following comments:</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1.        Overall observation to this new passage in the executive summary:  Most of the items listed are general background material and not specific to the application of the protocol to a planetary
 or lunar surface.  It’s odd that this information is contained in the executive summary section which is supposed to be summary of the entire document.  We will suggest below items that should be put in a background or introductory section.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2.        Page 2-2, item 1):  This point is more background information and should be in an introduction.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">3.        Page 2-2, item 2):  “Channel models depend on environment and deployment architecture (see [36], [D23], [D24], [D25]).” Again while this statement is true, it is very general and more background
 information that should be in an introduction section, not a summary.   </span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">4.        Page 2-2, item 2):  “LTE frame structure and timing inter-symbol interference (ISI) protection scales to multipath environments compatible with ~100 km link distances in mountainous terrains
 on Earth and will easily address most reasonable planetary, lunar, and other complex surface topography deployments.”  Where is the supporting documentation to this assertion?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">5.        Page 2-2, item 2):  “Delay spread significantly below 1/15 ms has no impact on LTE symbol decoding. This supports a path-spread of 10 km for received multipath components. Channel models
 are studied in depth in IEEE, 3GPP, and ITU processes, easily supporting the relatively small networks envisioned for spaceflight networks.” Delay spread is a function of the channel, and RF frequency.  If you have a Lunar channel with reflection coefficients,
 carrier frequencies and Doppler that are different from the terrestrial coefficients, then that impacts the delay and Doppler spread which could make the total time spread be much longer and this would impact the architecture of the network.  A detailed study
 of the Lunar or planetary surface is required to make a detailed multipath model in order to make a good protocol.  We don’t see a reference or detailed study of the Lunar surface.  The closest reference is [D25], however this article deals with intra-crater
 communications which is not likely to be a location for a lunar base.</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">6.        Page 2-2, item 2):  “For additional technical background see Wireless Network Communications Overview for Space Mission Operations (reference [D1]).”  This reference gives some fundamental
 description of multipath but it doesn’t apply the information to a proposed Lunar or planetary network. Can the WG provide a reference that actually applies the theory to a planetary application?
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">7.        Page 2-2, item 3):  This point is more background or introduction information and should not be in a summary section.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">8.        Page 2-3, item 4):  This point is more background or introduction information and should not be in a summary section.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">9.        Page 2-3, item 5):  This item is also background or introductory information.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The RFM WG general comment is that this new section starting at page 2-1 does not address the original three comments which are repeated below for reference:</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1.        Although document has a lot of information of the proposed standards, we don’t see requirements that are specific to Lunar environment, i.e. recommendation for locating base stations and
 what is the density of base stations for a required communications utilization.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2.        The channel model is not referenced or specified in the document.  We would like to see a characterization of the RF environment so that the protocols are justified.  The protocols are
 designed for an Earth like environment so some justification of why this will work on the Lunar surface in necessary.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">a.        How does the multipath effects of the lunar surface affect the throughput of the links?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">b.        Are there outages created by crater or surface shadowing?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">c.        Is the multipath frequency selective or flat?  How does this affect the service quality?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">3.        If there are supporting documents to the protocols for Lunar applications, please list.  The reference document list does not have this. Only terrestrial applications are specified for
 3GPP.</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">The RFM WG has no evidence that the material included in the book is sufficient and appropriate for a recommended standard (blue book) until the activities with the two independent prototpyes
 (one by NASA/Nokia and one by CSA/Star Solutions as per </span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/DispFormDraft.aspx?ID=703&Source=http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/AllOpenChartersWithDraftProjects.aspx"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">https://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/DispFormDraft.aspx?ID=703&Source=http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/AllOpenChartersWithDraftProjects.aspx</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">)
 are completed and the results are assessed by the RFM WG.</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">As such, noting that the BB cannot be published anyway before the two protypes have been demonstrated, the RFM WG recommends to SOIS-WIR not to proceed with the Agency Review of this book
 until the two prototypes are available to close all the issues highlighted by the RFM WG, assuming that the test plan for the prototypes will encompass all raised problems.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As said before, the RFM WG would be ready to help your group advance in this very interesting area. Joint working group meetings could be foreseen after addition of the support task in the RFM charter.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Looking forward to hearing from you,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"
 <</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Jonathan Wilmot" <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Ray Wagner" <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Lansdowne, Chatwin (JSC-EV811)"
 <</span><a href="mailto:chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">chatwin.lansdowne-1@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Cascarano, Brian (ASC/CSA)" <</span><a href="mailto:brian.cascarano@canada.ca"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">brian.cascarano@canada.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Stephen Braham" <</span><a href="mailto:stephen_braham@sfu.ca"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">stephen_braham@sfu.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Siddhartha Subray" <</span><a href="mailto:Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Siddhartha.Subray@Colorado.EDU</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">09/11/20 23:11</span>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sincere thanks to the SLS-RFM WG for review of the draft CCSDS 883-0-B-0
<i>Wireless Proximity Network Communications</i> Blue Book.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The SOIS-WIR WG has reviewed all the SLS-RFM comments and have composed dispositions for all comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please find attached two documents:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-- A table-based response to all SLS-RFM comments (v0.10.06.00 SLS-RFM RID Table and Responses.docx)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-- The draft BB with the SOIS-WIR proposed updates that address all comments from SLS-RFM (v0.10.16.16.09 CCSDS 883-0-BBv1-0 Wireless Proximity Network Communications.docx)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The attached Blue Book has Track Changes ON, and the only changes in the document are the updates from the SOIS-WIR WG to address/disposition the SLS-RFM WG Review Items.
  You can simply advance to the changes in the Blue Book with the 'Next Change' button where Reviewing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The primary updates are on page 2-1 and page 2-2, then in Section 2.4.2 starting on page 2-10 and page 2-11 (this includes the updated Table 2-3).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you again for the thoughtful review and suggestions.  If there are any additional inputs from your Working Group, the SOIS-WIR WG will address/disposition during the nominal Agency Review Cycle.</span>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please let me know if any questions or concerns.</span>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks again SLS-RFM!</span> <o:p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:51 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>; Ray Wagner <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Subject:</b> SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communications draft Blue Book</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Kevin,</span> <br>
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RFM WG has concluded discussions on the SOIS-WIR proxy draft BB. The agreed RFM WG position for SOIS-WIR is attached and is identical to the draft version submitted by Dennis for advance info.</span>
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The RFM WG is looking forward to receiving SOIS-WIR replies and, if requested by your group, is ready to be actively involved in solving some of he identified problems.</span>
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Best Regards, Enrico</span> <br>
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From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Lee, Dennis K (US 332G)" <</span><a href="mailto:dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">" <</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Jonathan Wilmot" <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Ray Wagner" <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">26/10/20 15:20</span>
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Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">RE: RFM Working Group Agenda</span>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080">Attached is a compilation of the review feedback received from the RFM working group on the draft SOIS-WIR Wireless Proximity Network Communication
 Blue Book.  They are mainly focused on revisions to the spectrum utilization (section 2.4.2), Table 2-2, and information regarding lunar base station density and lunar surface channel models.  Please let us know if you have any questions about the RFM feedback.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
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Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:00 AM<b><br>
To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">; Lee, Dennis K (US 332G) <</span><a href="mailto:dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>; Ray Wagner <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">; Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: RFM Working Group Agenda</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi SLS-RFM, Dennis, Enrico -
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">@Dennis: Can you please forward the SLS-RFM comments pertaining to the SOIS-WIR
<i>Wireless Proximity Network Communications </i>draft Blue Book?  The SOIS-WIR WG would like to review the SLS-RFM comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sincere thanks for your review efforts and valued inputs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:18 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Kevin K Gifford <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Jonathan Wilmot <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
 Ray Wagner <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Subject:</b> RFM Working Group Agenda</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi Kevin,</span>
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we are fine and hope the same is true for you.</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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The RFM WG works with papers submitted two weeks in advance of the meeting like other SLS groups. In light of the remote meeting for Fall 2020, we did documents review by correspondence. The agenda does not entail a physical mtg or videoconf, but just that
 we work on these issues.</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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The WG did review your input and Dennis was about to contact you with our findings/recommendations.</span>
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So please refrain from sending us another version. Have first a look at our recommendations and let us know what you think and what you could do about them. We can still iterate our recommendations with your group, though. If you are willing to take on board
 our requests, we can give you a few weeks to carry it out.</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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Regards, Enrico</span> <br>
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From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Kevin K Gifford" <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"
 <</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Blackwood, Michael D. via CESG-All"
 <</span><a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Ray Wagner" <</span><a href="mailto:raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">raymond.s.wagner@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>,
 "Jonathan Wilmot" <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>, "Kevin K Gifford"
 <</span><a href="mailto:kevin.gifford@colorado.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">kevin.gifford@colorado.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">></span>
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Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">20/10/20 16:05</span>
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Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [Cesg-all] RFM Working Group Agenda</span>
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Hi Enrico - <br>
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I hope all is well for you and that you and your family are healthy!</span> <span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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I'll send the SOIS-WIR draft Blue Book to you and the SLS-RFM group later this week so that you will have the latest version of the document that will go through Secretariat publication processing.</span>
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Please let me know if any questions or concerns.</span> <span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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Thanks.</span> <span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
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Kevin</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> CESG-All <</span><a href="mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
 on behalf of </span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:34 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Blackwood, Michael D. via CESG-All <</span><a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0082BF">cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [Cesg-all] RFM Working Group Agenda</span> <br>
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Dear Michael,</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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1. Modulations for high rate uplinks with ranging at 22 GHz</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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2. Disposition RIDs concerning CCSDS 401.0-RP-30.1 <br>
3. Update to Draft 23/27 GHz TTFR Recommendation</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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4. Update to Draft Flexible Turnaround Ratio Recommendation</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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5. Consideration of HOMs for non-EESS missions</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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6. Review of Draft Wireless Proximity Network Blue Book (SOIS-WIR)</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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7. Impact of VCM to EESS HOMs recommendations</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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