<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tom,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> thank
you for the clarification.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Clearly we would hope that there is
something possible on the database to avoid the related production of useless
information.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If there is the need that the </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">next-status
date field will continue to have some value in it</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif">,
we may consider setting that date far into the future or to have decennia
checks; e.g. next check in 2020 and then check again in 2030 or even
better - since we checked now - next date 2026 :o)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Regards</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Gian Paolo</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">PS "Lower" values of the </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">next-status
date field</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> are to be considered risky
not only to </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> catch
Gian Paolo’s attention,</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> but also
to catch CMC delegates attention :o)</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Thomas Gannett"
<thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int>,
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"'Gilles Moury'"
<Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr>, <sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org>, <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">12/10/2016 15:11</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">RE: B20.0-Y-1
/ Any re-action expected</font>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Dear Enrico:</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">The status table is produced
from a database that contains a lot of useless information and applies
calculations uniformly across all the documents, sometimes producing useless
results.</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">However, in 2010 you did
indicate uncertainty about the lifespan of the meeting proceedings documents,
and I think even you might agree that it does not hurt to revisit them
occasionally to determine whether they are of continued use (reconfirmation
review includes the option of retirement). You are in the best position
to know whether they are of continued use.</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">In the case of the three
RF&Mod proceedings documents, actually only one exists electronically;
the other two were hardcopy only. Fairly recently, if you recall, we both
searched for an extant copy of one of them, querying all the old-timers
we could think of, and discovered that not a single a copy could be found.
So whether it is to anyone’s benefit to continue to list the books as
active CCSDS publications is actually a good question.</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">If it were up to me, I would
retire both CCSDS 421.0-G-1 and CCSDS B20.0-Y-1, since the CCSDS is unable
to produce a copy of either; but it is not really my call. I think if I
set the next status of CCSDS B20.0-Y-2 to “none” it may no longer catch
Gian Paolo’s attention, but the next-status date field will continue to
have some value in it. Maybe he can remember not to ask you about it.</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Best regards,</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Tom</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=3 color=#004080 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<br><font size=3 color=#004080 face="Times New Roman">Thomas Gannett</font>
<br><font size=3 color=#004080 face="Times New Roman">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</font>
<br><font size=3 color=#004080 face="Times New Roman">+1 443 472 0805</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int [</font><a href=mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int><font size=2 face="Tahoma">mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</font></a><font size=2 face="Tahoma">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:21 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int<b><br>
Cc:</b> Tom Gannett; Gilles Moury; sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org; Nestor.Peccia@esa.int<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</font>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Tom should have fixed this problem in 2010.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
The ball is with him.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Please stop involving RFM WG on this. If anything is needed, do it at SLS
or CESG level.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Cheers, Enrico</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#800080 face="Arial"><br>
----- Forwarded by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA on 12/10/2016 12:15 -----</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
From: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
To: </font><a href=mailto:tomg@aiaa.org><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>tomg@aiaa.org</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Cc: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"Jean-luc
Gerner" <</font><a href=mailto:jeanluc.gerner@yahoo.com><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>jeanluc.gerner@yahoo.com</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>,
"Moury Gilles" <</font><a href=mailto:gilles.moury@cnes.fr><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>gilles.moury@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Date: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">13/08/2010
10:30</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Subject: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Re:
Status of CCSDS books</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
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<hr noshade></div>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Tom,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
I reviewed the documents under my two groups. I have the following comments:</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
1) 413.0-G-1 It's obsolete and replaced by G-2
and therefore I think it should disappear from the list (for instance we
have 401.0-B-20 but not all 19 previous issues listed.)</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
2) 421.0-G-1, B20.0-Y-1, B20.0-Y-2 </font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
These are proceedings from 1989, 1993 and 2001. I am not sure what is the
lifetime plan for proceedings. For sure they do not need reconfirmation
review. I would be inclined to keep them on the list as current since proceedings
never become obsolete, and remove the next action and its date. Also the
responsibility should be transferred to secretariat. However, I am happy
to discuss this proposal if rules exist also for proceedings.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Sorry for the delay in my response,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Enrico</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
From: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Gian
Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
To: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Cc: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"Tom
Gannett" <</font><a href=mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>,
"Gilles Moury" <</font><a href=mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>,
</font><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Date: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">12/10/2016
11:46</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Subject: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Re:
B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font>
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<hr noshade></div>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Enrico,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
I am sure it will never change.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
I was just wondering whether there is a need for e.g. a WG Resolution to
finally/definitively put the next action date to year 3000 :o)</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Regards</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Gian Paolo</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
From: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
To: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Gian Paolo
Calzolari/esoc/ESA@ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Cc: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"Tom
Gannett" <</font><a href=mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>,
"Gilles Moury" <</font><a href=mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>,
</font><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Date: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">12/10/2016
11:44</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Subject: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Re:
B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font>
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<hr noshade></div>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
This is a collection of input papers. It cannot be changed !!!!</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
We told this to the CCSDS World many times already. Please stop this proliferation
of useless information.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Regards, Enrico</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
From: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">Gian
Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
To: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"Tom
Gannett" <</font><a href=mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Cc: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"Gilles
Moury" <</font><a href=mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>,
Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Date: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">12/10/2016
11:38</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br>
Subject: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">B20.0-Y-1
/ Any re-action expected</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
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<hr noshade></div>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Tom,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
do you need any (re)action from the WG to state
that this book is going to stay as is?</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Thanks</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Gian Paolo</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
<br>
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