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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Y2 exists electronically and is on the Web site. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Whoever at JPL has a copy of Y1 could forward it to me for scanning—the Secretariat may already have a copy, but if I had a borrowed copy I could at least assure that scanning takes place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is not in any way a CESG/CMC issue, but rather an issue of whether or not we a physical copy of the document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CCSDS 421.0-G-1, given a next status of “none” in 2010 and since ignored, is far more problematic, since the most recent search for the document found 0 copies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thomas Gannett<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>+1 443 472 0805<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int [mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Thomas Gannett<br><b>Cc:</b> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int; 'Gilles Moury'; Nestor.Peccia@esa.int; sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have a copy of Y2. JPL has a copy of Y1. They should have been scanned and made available to CCSDS.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Collections of input documents are always useful. I would like to leave this issue with CESG/CMC.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards, Enrico</span> <br><br><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Thomas Gannett" <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><<a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</a>>, "'Gilles Moury'" <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>, <<a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a>>, <<a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 16:35</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>Incorrect. We have no PDF file to link to, so it can’t be listed there. The document exists only in hardcopy, if it exists at all. </span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><span style='color:#004080'> </span> <br><span style='color:#004080'>Thomas Gannett</span> <br><span style='color:#004080'><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a></span> <br><span style='color:#004080'>+1 443 472 0805</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> </span> <br><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a> [</span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b><br>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:14 AM<b><br>To:</b> Thomas Gannett<b><br>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int">Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</a>; 'Gilles Moury'; <a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a>; <a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</a><b><br>Subject:</b> RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <br> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Disappear from the active list but still visible at </span><a href="https://public.ccsds.org/publications/SilverBooks.aspx"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>https://public.ccsds.org/publications/SilverBooks.aspx</span></a> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Correct?</span> <br><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Thomas Gannett" <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><</span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, "'Gilles Moury'" <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 16:08</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br>CCSDS B20.0-Y-1 is just an item in a list. It is not an actual document in terms of anything we can move from one collection to another. So making it “silver” will simply make it disappear. That can be done.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br></span> <span style='color:#004080'><br></span> <span style='color:#004080'><br>Thomas Gannett</span> <u><span style='color:blue'><br></span></u><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a> <span style='color:#004080'><br>+1 443 472 0805</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br></span> <b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [</span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b><br>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:57 AM<b><br>To:</b> Thomas Gannett<b><br>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; 'Gilles Moury'; </span><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; </span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <br> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Is there a chance to silverize it?</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Thomas Gannett" <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><</span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, "'Gilles Moury'" <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 15:36</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br>Actually, I think I did set the database to show an empty next-status date field when “none” is the next status, so a book with a next status of “none” will never catch anyone’s attention again. (That’s not actually a good thing.)</span> <br><br><span style='color:#004080'><br>Thomas Gannett</span> <u><span style='color:blue'><br></span></u><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a> <span style='color:#004080'><br>+1 443 472 0805</span> <br><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [</span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b><br>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:22 AM<b><br>To:</b> Thomas Gannett<b><br>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; 'Gilles Moury'; </span><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; </span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Tom,</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br> thank you for the clarification.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Clearly we would hope that there is something possible on the database to avoid the related production of useless information.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>If there is the need that the </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>next-status date field will continue to have some value in it</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>, we may consider setting that date far into the future or to have decennia checks; e.g. next check in 2020 and then check again in 2030 or even better - since we checked now - next date 2026 :o)</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Regards</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Gian Paolo</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>PS "Lower" values of the </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'>next-status date field</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> are to be considered risky not only to </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'> catch Gian Paolo’s attention,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> but also to catch CMC delegates attention :o)</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br><br><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Thomas Gannett" <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"'Gilles Moury'" <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, <</span><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 15:11</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RE: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br><br>Dear Enrico:</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br>The status table is produced from a database that contains a lot of useless information and applies calculations uniformly across all the documents, sometimes producing useless results.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br>However, in 2010 you did indicate uncertainty about the lifespan of the meeting proceedings documents, and I think even you might agree that it does not hurt to revisit them occasionally to determine whether they are of continued use (reconfirmation review includes the option of retirement). You are in the best position to know whether they are of continued use.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br>In the case of the three RF&Mod proceedings documents, actually only one exists electronically; the other two were hardcopy only. Fairly recently, if you recall, we both searched for an extant copy of one of them, querying all the old-timers we could think of, and discovered that not a single a copy could be found. So whether it is to anyone’s benefit to continue to list the books as active CCSDS publications is actually a good question.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br>If it were up to me, I would retire both CCSDS 421.0-G-1 and CCSDS B20.0-Y-1, since the CCSDS is unable to produce a copy of either; but it is not really my call. I think if I set the next status of CCSDS B20.0-Y-2 to “none” it may no longer catch Gian Paolo’s attention, but the next-status date field will continue to have some value in it. Maybe he can remember not to ask you about it.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br><br>Best regards,</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#004080'><br>Tom</span> <br><span style='color:#004080'><br><br>Thomas Gannett</span> <u><span style='color:blue'><br></span></u><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a> <span style='color:#004080'><br>+1 443 472 0805</span> <b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><br>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [</span><a href="mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b><br>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:21 AM<b><br>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</span></a><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Tom Gannett; Gilles Moury; </span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; </span><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</span></a><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Tom should have fixed this problem in 2010.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>The ball is with him.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Please stop involving RFM WG on this. If anything is needed, do it at SLS or CESG level.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Cheers, Enrico</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'><br>----- Forwarded by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA on 12/10/2016 12:15 -----</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><a href="mailto:tomg@aiaa.org"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>tomg@aiaa.org</span></a> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Jean-luc Gerner" <</span><a href="mailto:jeanluc.gerner@yahoo.com"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>jeanluc.gerner@yahoo.com</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, "Moury Gilles" <</span><a href="mailto:gilles.moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>gilles.moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>13/08/2010 10:30</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: Status of CCSDS books</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><br><br>Tom,</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>I reviewed the documents under my two groups. I have the following comments:</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>1) 413.0-G-1 It's obsolete and replaced by G-2 and therefore I think it should disappear from the list (for instance we have 401.0-B-20 but not all 19 previous issues listed.)</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><br>2) 421.0-G-1, B20.0-Y-1, B20.0-Y-2 </span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>These are proceedings from 1989, 1993 and 2001. I am not sure what is the lifetime plan for proceedings. For sure they do not need reconfirmation review. I would be inclined to keep them on the list as current since proceedings never become obsolete, and remove the next action and its date. Also the responsibility should be transferred to secretariat. However, I am happy to discuss this proposal if rules exist also for proceedings.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Sorry for the delay in my response,</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Enrico</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br><br><br><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Tom Gannett" <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, "Gilles Moury" <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, </span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 11:46</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><br><br>Enrico,</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br> I am sure it will never change.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>I was just wondering whether there is a need for e.g. a WG Resolution to finally/definitively put the next action date to year 3000 :o)</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Regards</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Gian Paolo</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br><br><br><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA@ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Tom Gannett" <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, "Gilles Moury" <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, </span><a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 11:44</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><br><br>This is a collection of input papers. It cannot be changed !!!!</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>We told this to the CCSDS World many times already. Please stop this proliferation of useless information.</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Regards, Enrico</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br><br><br><br>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Tom Gannett" <</span><a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>></span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Gilles Moury" <</span><a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>, Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 11:38</span> <span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><br>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><br><br>Tom,</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br> do you need any (re)action from the WG to state that this book 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