<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Peter,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"> I recognise
that you have a different technical opinion. Differences in opinions are
fundamental in CCSDS, that has been established exactly for being a forum
of discussions.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">This is recorded
as part of the mailing list archives.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">However, I firmly
ask you to also respect others' opinions. </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">The C&S working
group colleagues have a long time experience in the topic, contribute to
the WG with dedication, and I perfectly trust trust their knowledge
and abilities.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Claiming that
<i>the WG is choosing to publish a document with an known inaccurate
diagram, </i>is a value judgement that I would personally abstain from
making.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Regards</span>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b>HE
Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b>Ph.D.
Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Tms Rmn"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)<br>
RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
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NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:blue;font-family:Verdana"><u><br>
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<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int>, "Space
Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int"
<Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">19-08-21
21:08</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[SLS-CC] [EXTERNAL] Re: VCM technical corrigendum wording (AI_21_01)</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear
Andrea,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
do understand that the WG wishes to publish this document with an inaccurate
“informative” diagram. I want to go on record that I believe firmly
that this is a mistake. I also think that your statement could just
as easily have read:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Concerning
the technical conclusions: VCM blue book defines the modulations (PSK/APSK),
filtering/shaping (SRRC). There is nothing that </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">defines
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">the transparent
transmission of the bits as defined by ISO 7498 </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">except
for CCSDS 401 document.</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
The remaining portions (frequency, phase noise tolerance, I/Q imbalance)
in BlueBook 401 </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">define
the lowest sub- </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">layer.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
This </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">could
have been </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">the conclusion
of the WG, and we reached consensus as required by the CCSDS organization
and processes YB. </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Finally, I wish to remark that we're dealing just with notional, </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">but
inaccurate, </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">informative
diagram. The BB clearly will include that 401 shall be taken into account,
hence, from pragmatic point of view the WG </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:red;font-family:Arial">is
choosing to publish an document with an known inaccurate diagram</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">This
is, in my technical opinion, an accurate statement of what you have chosen
to do. From my pragmatic point of view I do not wish to spend any
more of my time trying to convince you to do the right thing. So
if you do not want to fix it, in accordance with CCSDS consensus process,
I will stand aside and let you do the inaccurate thing.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:11pt">________________________________________________________<br>
<br>
Peter Shames<br>
CCSDS Systems Engineering Area Director<br>
<br>
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, MS 301-490<br>
California Institute of Technology<br>
Pasadena, CA 91109 USA <br>
<br>
Telephone: +1 818 354-5740, Fax: +1 818 393-6871<br>
<br>
Internet: </span><a href=Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue"><u>Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt"><br>
________________________________________________________<br>
<br>
We must recognize the strong and undeniable influence that our language
exerts on our ways of thinking and, in fact, delimits the abstract space
in which we can formulate - give form to - our thoughts.<br>
<br>
Niklaus Wirth</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>SLS-CC <sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of "Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 6:49 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Cc: </b>"Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int" <Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [SLS-CC] [EXTERNAL] Re: VCM technical corrigendum wording
(AI_21_01)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
Colleagues,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
regarding the VCM technical corrigendum, I did not get additional comments.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
In view of the WG consensus, I kindly ask SLS AD to raise a resolution
for publication (copy in attachment)</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Kind Regards</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)<br>
RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299<br>
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Andrea
Modenini/estec/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Lee,
Dennis K (US 332G)" <dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov>, "Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA" <Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int>, "EXTERNAL-Pietras,
John V (US 332C-Affiliate)" <john.pietras@gst.com>, "Hamkins,
Jon (US 3300)" <jon.hamkins@jpl.nasa.gov>, "Andrews, Kenneth
S (US 332B)" <kenneth.s.andrews@jpl.nasa.gov>, "Space Link
Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org>,
Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez/estec/ESA@ESA, "Gilles Moury" <Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">28-07-21
16:42</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[EXTERNAL] Re: [SLS-CC] VCM technical corrigendum wording (AI_21_01)</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
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<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Dear Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
thanks for your feedback. Sorry again for taking some time in replying,
but I am still working 20% of the time.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Concerning the involvement of the RFM working group in the VCM technical
corrigendum, we had the joint RFM/C&S for which edits were agreed,
representative was always involved, and we never got negative feedback.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Additionally, this will be also crosschecked at SLS AD level before going
to SLS resolution. </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Concerning the technical conclusions: VCM blue book defines the modulations
(PSK/APSK), filtering/shaping (SRRC). There is nothing that prevents to
define the transparent transmission of the bits as defined by ISO 7498.
The remaining portions (frequency, phase noise tolerance, I/Q imbalance)
in BlueBook 401 appear rather small for being an actual layer.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
This was the conclusion of the WG, and we reached consensus as required
by the CCSDS organization and processes YB. </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Finally, I wish to remark that we're dealing just with notional informative
diagram. The BB clearly will include that 401 shall be taken into account,
hence, from pragmatic point of view, I don't see any mistake in the WG
assessment.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Kind Regards</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)<br>
RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299<br>
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Space
Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org>,
"Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA" <Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int>, "Lee,
Dennis K (US 332G)" <dennis.k.lee@jpl.nasa.gov>, "Andrews,
Kenneth S (US 332B)" <kenneth.s.andrews@jpl.nasa.gov>, "Hamkins,
Jon (US 3300)" <jon.hamkins@jpl.nasa.gov>, "EXTERNAL-Pietras,
John V (US 332C-Affiliate)" <john.pietras@gst.com></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">26-07-21
23:14</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[EXTERNAL] Re: [SLS-CC] VCM technical corrigendum wording (AI_21_01)</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Hi
Andrea,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Thanks
for this feedback. I have heard about this topic from both Ken Andrews
and John Pietras. I must say, in all honesty, that I am both not
surprised and also disappointed by the choice that the SLS CC WG has made.
I also wonder if the RFM WG would agree with your characterization
that the “</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">RFM Blue
Book 401 rather provides a set of requirements to be fulfilled when transmitting
at Radio Frequency, but not a function.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">”
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">In
fact, that “pseudo protocol stack” diagram from 431, and also 131.0,
.1, .2 makes direct reference to “Relationship to OSI Layers”. This
is not “functions”, per se, but “OSI layers”. The text above
this figure, in 431.0-B, says:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf">“The
synchronization and channel coding sublayer provides methods of synchronization
and channel coding for transferring Transfer Frames over a space link while
the Physical Layer provides the RF and modulation methods for transferring
a stream of bits over a space link in a single direction. </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf">This
Recommended Standard covers functions in both the Synchronization and Channel
Coding Sublayer and the Physical Layer. “</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
think that we would all have to agree that the “functions” in the OSI
Layer 1 relative to RF transmission include all of the physical layer aspects
required to apply modulation, and to do filtering, signal shaping, and
actual radiation of the RF signal. For VCM we can add “physical
layer signaling” to that set of functions. All of these, as far
as I can tell, are “functions” of Layer 1.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
could quote all of the relevant section of the BRM, ISO 7498, but I suspect
you are familiar with them. I will quote the most relevant parts:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf"><b>7.7.3.3.
Physical Connections</b></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf"><b>7.7.3.3.1
</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf">The Physical Layer
provides for the transparent transmission of bit streams between data-link</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf">-</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf">entities
across physical-connections. </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf"><b>7.7.3.3.2
</b></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf"><b>A </b>data-circuit
is a communication path in the physical media for OSI among two or more
physical-entities, together with the facilities necessary in the Physical
Layer for the transmission of bits on it. </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
think we all know that the BRM does not expressly cover RF communications,
nor does it cover optical comms. That said, it does use sufficiently
broad language that it is, in my opinion, still an extremely useful reference.
In this case “</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf">facilities
necessary in the Physical Layer for the transmission of bits</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">”
equates, in my mind, exactly to “modulation, filtering, signal shaping,
and actual radiation of the RF signal”. Whether the term of art
is “facilities” or “functions” is a terminology distinction that does
not feel like it is worth arguing about. The BRM uses both “function”
and “facility” and seems to mean more or less the same thing in both
instances.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">The
last point I will make about this figure 2-1 is that it clearly states
that the “VCM Protocol” covers all of the “Physical Layer”, which seems
to mean all of OSI Layer 1. I do believe that the VCM includes some
physical layer functions, like a selection of modulations and pilot signals,
but not all of them, so I continue to believe that this figure, on the
surface of it, is both mis-leading and inaccurate. I also believe
that in the absence of the functions, features, and facilities defined
in the CCSDS 401.0-B that you would be lacking the required definitions
for several key functions and / or facilities for RF signal radiation,
and constraints thereon, that are only documented in CCSDS 401.0-B.
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">My
conclusion, therefore, is that if the CCSDS stack does not include, explicitly,
CCSDS 401.0-B, there is no complete guidance for RF radiation, and therefore
Layer 1 is incomplete.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
really wish that you guys would just fix these figures so that this ambiguity
is removed. The corresponding figure and text in TM Synch and channel
coding, CCSDS 131.0-B, contains no such ambiguity.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Thanks,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>From:
</b>"Andrea Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Monday, July 26, 2021 at 12:58 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SLS-CC] VCM technical corrigendum wording
(AI_21_01)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
sorry for the late reply, I have been hold by other activities, and I am
also in a personal leave.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Regarding the stack, in our opinion the VCM Blue Book defines also the
physical layer function, since it fully specifies the modulations and constellations
to be implemented.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
In this respect, the RFM Blue Book 401 rather provides a set of requirements
to be fulfilled when transmitting at Radio Frequency, but not a function.
<br>
<br>
Hence, our preference as WG is to insert the sentences as indicated in
my previous email, but to not modify the stack.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Please let us know your opinion, so that we could possible proceed with
the WG resolution.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
<br>
HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int>, "Space
Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">07-07-21
21:05</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[EXTERNAL] Re: [SLS-CC] VCM technical corrigendum wording (AI_21_01)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Dear
Andrea & S&CC WG members,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
fully support the idea of aligning all three of the “VCM suite” coding
and synch standards. As we have tried to make clear in the updates
we are making to the SCCS-ARD, our analysis shows that all three of these
approaches are very nearly identical technically, with only what
appear to be modest differences in how they are designed. I do not
wish to get into the whole discussion of how we arrived at this situation,
only to point out that this is where we are, and that this is how we view
the technical details.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">In
the attached slides I have included, as pgs 2 & 3, the way that
we are approaching the description of what we are calling the “VCM Suite”
and how we plan to document these relative to the rest of the S&CC
specs as well as how they relate to the several link layer protocols. We
reviewed these diagrams during the “SCCS Coordination” meeting
that involved SLS, SIS, CSS, and SEA WG and Area leads. And we just discussed
these during the follow up SAWG meeting that Gilles was present at. We
agreed to ask your WG for feedback, so I am taking this opportunity
to do this.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
have also included, on pg 1, a proposed markup of your text and Fig
2-1 from the 431.1 document. We think it will be clearer if this
figure, and the associated text, for the 431.1 (and the others in the VCM
Suite) all use the identical figure, and that this figure, and the related
text, clearly states that these standards only address the upper part (modulation
sub-layer) of the Physical Layer and not the lower sub-layer where the
401.0 document addresses the RF frequency bands, bandwidth limitations,
etc.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Please
review this feedback and see if you can agree to it. Also, it would
be very useful to us if your WG would review the VCM Suite diagrams I have
sent and make sure that they are technically correct.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Very
best regards, Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>From:
</b>SLS-CC <sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of "Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 9:30 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [SLS-CC] VCM technical corrigendum wording
(AI_21_01)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
all,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I did not receive any comment about the VCM BB from the WG.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
However, considering the outcome of the DVB-S2 BB review we had today,
I have myself a comment. <br>
We aligned the SCCC and DVB-S2 BBs for having a sentence that states
the need to consider CCSDS 401 BB.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
On the same line, I would propose to modify Section 2 as provided below
(italic part highlights the addition).</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
You can find in attachment also the word file in tracking-changes mode
for your convenience.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Please let me know if there is any objection, or additional point to consider,
<u>no later than 12th July EOB</u>.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I will afterward request an Area Resolution for having the technical corrigendum.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Kind Regards,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Andrea</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
<br>
-------------</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">This
Recommended Standard covers functions in both the Synchronization and Channel
Coding Sublayer and the Physical Layer<i>, the latter for what concerns
the modulation schemes. CCSDS 401.0-B [5] covers additional features of
the Physical Layer like frequency bands, polarizations, etc. that are not
described or referenced here.</i></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
<br>
<br>
HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)<br>
RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
Keplerlaan 1, PO Box 299<br>
NL-2200 AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands<br>
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<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Andrea
Modenini/estec/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Space
Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">10-06-21
17:28</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">[SLS-CC]
VCM technical corrigendum wording (AI_21_01)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span></p>
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<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Dear colleagues,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
please find enclosed the proposed changes by Jon to the VCM BB discussed
during the joint C&S/RFM meeting. Please send your comments before
<b>1st July 2021</b> (if any) directly to John with CC Enrico and
I, and C&S mailing list.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
<br>
Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Andrea</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
<br>
<br>
HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
TT&C and PDT Systems & Techniques Section (TEC-EST)<br>
RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
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<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Jon
Hamkins" <Jon.Hamkins@jpl.caltech.edu></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int>, "Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int"
<Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">09-06-21
18:48</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">VCM
technical corrigendum wording (AI_21_01)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
Andrea, Enrico, <br>
Attached is a draft VCM technical corrigendum in response to AI_21_01 from
the C&S WG. I completed this in consultation with Ken Andrews and John
Pietras. <br>
The main changes are in two places: Section 3.2.3 and Section 3.3.2.3 to
3.3.2.4. In summary, with the new wording the randomization is determined
by VCM type: </span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Type 1 (SCCC-like)
VCM will randomize the Transfer Frames as the SCCC standard does, using
the TM randomizer.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span>
<li><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Type 2 (DVB-S2-like)
VCM will randomize the sliced encoder-inputs as the DVB-S2 standard does,
using the ETSI DVB-S2 baseband scrambler.</span></ul><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">This
will make the CCSDS VCM standard consistent with the 131.2-B-1 and 131.3-B-1
books (SCCC and DVB-S2), with respect to randomization.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
These changes are not related to randomization that occurs after encoding.
The VCM protocol standard already applies post-encoding randomization,
at the physical layer.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Can you forward this message to the RFM and C&S mailing lists along
with your guidance on how/when to respond with comments? I believe we agreed
to resolve this action by email.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
----Jon</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
-- <b><br>
Jon Hamkins</b><br>
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