<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Ken,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"> for RID
AM-01 and AM-02 it is fine with me your minor changes.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">You can find the
updated disposition.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">For everybody
else, kind reminder that deadline for comments is <b>3rd May</b>.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">If there will
be no additional comments, I believe we can close the review by email</span>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Regards</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"> </span>
<br>
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Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b>Ph.D.
Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Tms Rmn"><b>
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<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Andrews,
Kenneth S (US 332B)" <kenneth.s.andrews@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Andrea
Modenini (external)" <Andrea.Modenini@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Space
Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">27-04-21
19:47</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[EXTERNAL] [SLS-CC] Fw: Agency review of CCSDS 231.0 - draft of dispositions</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">Andrea, </span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">Sure enough, your email messages about
RIDs to the “TC Coding” Blue Book did not reach me, or presumably the
rest of the working group. There were two more RIDs submitted by
NASA (one by David Ni, one by John Pietras), but both are duplicates of
the JAXA RID, which noted the error between “Sending” and “Receiving”
in the captions of Figures 2-4 and 2-5.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">John Pietras also noted that there’s
an incorrect cross-reference in the document, though it's outside of the
material covered by the RIDs. In Section 2.2.3, the last sentence
of the first paragraph currently says, “This is described in section 4.”
It should say, “This is described in section 5”.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">I hadn’t seen your two RIDs before,
but both look like good ideas to me. By preference, I’d change the
wording of each of them slightly as follows, but I don’t feel strongly
about it.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">RID AM-01</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">I would change the “To:” text to be:
</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">When BCH coding
is used, the Pseudo-Randomizer defined in this section is required unless
the system designer verifies proper operation of the system if this Randomizer
is not used. Its use is fixed for a Physical Channel and is managed (i.e.,
its presence or absence is not signaled but is known a priori by the receiver),
per Table 8-2.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">RID AM-02:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">I would change the “To:” text to be:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">6.3.1 <strike>The
randomization shall be applied at the transmitting end, and it</strike>When
BCH coding is used with the Pseudo-Randomizer, randomization shall be applied
only…</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">…</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">NOTES </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">1</span><span style=" font-size:7pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">Requirements
for randomization of fill data are specified in 3.4.3 for BCH coding <strike>and
4.4.3 for LDPC coding</strike>.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">2</span><span style=" font-size:7pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Courier New">Randomization
for BCH coding is optional, and managed per Table 8-2.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">Thanks,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">-Ken</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">On Apr 22, 2021, at 1:30 AM, Andrea Modenini
(external) <</span><a href=mailto:Andrea.Modenini@esa.int><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>Andrea.Modenini@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">>
wrote:</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear all,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
it occurred to me that the mailing list below was probably not received
by everybody because of my mistake in selecting the 'bounces' email.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
In summary, for the Agency Review of CCSDS 231.0 "TC Synchronization
and Channel Coding", we received the RIDs in attachment (1 SLS, 2
ESA, 1 JAXA).</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
From a quick review they all appear minor modifications. Hence I did a
draft of dispositions, and I propose to agree them by correspondence instead
of having a dedicated telco.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
In this respect, by no later than <b>3rd May EOB (PDT)</b>, please let
me know if you have any issue with the proposed approach or the drafted
dispositions.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Thanks a lot and sorry for the mistake,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Kind Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
NOTE: former discussion below is just provided for information. Please
refer to the new deadline.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
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Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
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From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Andrea
Modenini/estec/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">SLS-CC
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u>sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA, Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA@ESA, Massimo Bertinelli/estec/ESA@ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">12-04-21
18:07</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[SLS-CC] Agency review of CCSDS 231.0 - draft of dispositions</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span>
<hr noshade><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Dear all,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
please find in attachment a first draft of the dispositions for the Agency
Review of CCSDS 231.0.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
In order to give enough time to everybody for the review, I suggest a deadline
in about two weeks.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Hence, please let me know if you don't agree with the dispositions no later
than <b>28th April EOB (PDT)</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Kind Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Andrea</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
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HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
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RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
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From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Andrea
Modenini/estec/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">SLS-CC
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u>sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA, Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA@ESA, Massimo Bertinelli/estec/ESA@ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">10-04-21
13:36</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[SLS-CC] Agency review of CCSDS 231.0</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span>
<hr noshade><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Dear all,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I received no objections concerning the approach of drafting disposition
by correspondence.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I thus take action to provide a first draft of the disposition within this
working week and distribute them to the WG for comments/edits.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
HE Space Operations for ESA - European Space Agency</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Ph.D. Andrea Modenini</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
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RF Systems Division<b><br>
ESTEC</b><br>
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From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Andrea
Modenini/estec/ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">SLS-CC
<</span><a href="mailto:sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:sans-serif"><u>sls-cc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA, Massimo Bertinelli/estec/ESA@ESA, Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA@ESA</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01-04-21
17:23</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">[SLS-CC]
Agency review of CCSDS 231.0</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span>
<hr noshade><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Dear all,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
with reference to the Agency Review of CCSDS 231.0 "TC Synchronization
and Channel Coding", we received the RIDs in attachment (1 SLS, 2
ESA, 1 JAXA).</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
From a quick review they all appear minor modifications. Hence I would
propose to draft dispositions by correspondence instead of having a dedicated
telco.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Please let me know if you have any issue with the proposed approach <u>no
later than 9th April EOB (PST)</u>.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
If I will receive no objections, I will then provide a first draft of dispositions
for the WG assessment.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
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Communication Systems & Technologies Engineer</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>
</b></span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#808080;font-family:Verdana"><br>
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