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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I also concur with Osvaldo, reading from the text it is mostly about best practices rather than new interface/protocol/architecture specifications. As such,
I would see more appropriate to go for a magenta rather than blue book, which would also be lighter in terms of requested effort, since no prototypes are necessary there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As to the urgency of such project, if such, we may want to organize a telco (provided that we find a reasonable time to let USA, Asia, and Europe people to
join) and discuss the matter. Otherwise as suggested by Osvaldo we can safely wait until Fall Meetings in the Nederland.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Peinado, Osvaldo Luis
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Grubbs, Rodney P. (MSFC-HP27); Cola, Tomaso de<br>
<b>Cc:</b> sis-mia@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: Description for proposed new project<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It is any reason why we need to have a blue book now and not a Magenta one? Or do we have any hurry?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It will be (in my opinion) more reasonable if we have a MIA meeting in the Hague and discuss what we really want to do and agree after that which prototypes
and test we will need to develop and carry out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After we have the meeting and a clear plan we can decide if we go for a blue book or not<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">From a CMC point of view it is too early and too vague (also with the update from Jeremy) to be approved<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Grubbs, Rodney P. (MSFC-HP27) [<a href="mailto:rodney.grubbs@nasa.gov">mailto:rodney.grubbs@nasa.gov</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 25. Mai 2017 14:53<br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Description for proposed new project<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See my responses below next to **<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 24, 2017, at 5:27 PM, <a href="mailto:tomaso.decola@dlr.de">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
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<p class="MsoNormal">** My understanding is the book can’t get assigned a CCSDS # until it is an approved project. As for the title, I’m open to suggestions if the current proposed title isn’t appropriate (“RTP for Space Applications”).<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
my impression we need more details about the overall focus of this blue book. It is stated that BP cannot support ordered delivery of video frames (what about using e2e DTPC?) and RTP is proposed. Does it mean that RTP (over UDP/IP I guess) shall be used in
alternative to BP or are we going to propose a new CLA to make RTP interoperable to BP? Some more details about the proposed protocol architecture I think are necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">** Good points. My thinking was this offers an alternative method for streaming video (and voice) than what is outlined in our current motion imagery blue book. <span style="color:#0433FF">Jeremy/Osvaldo,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
think it would be good to draft a tentative timeline and also check internally which agencies are willing to commit resources to this blue book (for the 2 prototypes generation), who is the book editor, who is contributing and who is observing (if any).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">** We would follow the template for a blue book in the CWE. One of my actions below was asking which agencies were interested in committing resources to the blue book for the prototypes. NASA will provide the book editor as we have for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tomaso</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">SIS-MIA
[<a href="mailto:sis-mia-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:sis-mia-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Grubbs, Rodney P. (MSFC-HP27)<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sis-mia@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-mia@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Sis-mia] Description for proposed new project</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All—during our meetings in San Antonio, DLR/Jeremy Mayer proposed a new project, likely a Blue Book, related to the use of RTP for video (and voice). One of the reasons I circulated a draft for an updated charter was to pave the way for
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached and in the CWE (SIS-MIA>documents>draft documents is a draft project description. Two actions for you, please. Please review and provide any suggested edits or comments to me and Osvaldo Peinado by COB June 2.<o:p></o:p></p>
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