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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I don’t have a vote but +1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vint Cerf via SIS-DTN<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 16, 2025 8:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Sis-dtn] DTN input to SIS report to CESG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">strongly endorse Durst's call for realistic scenario and interoperability testing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 6:34<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Tomaso de Cola via SIS-DTN <<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ok thank you for the additional detail on this, I’ll add an item immediately after that on BPv7 blue book.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Tomaso<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" target="_blank">durst@mitre.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Montag, 16. Juni 2025 15:21<br>
<b>To:</b> de Cola, Tomaso <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" target="_blank">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int" target="_blank">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: DTN input to SIS report to CESG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I believe that we want to have a Yellow Book to provide an overview, with reference to SANA. (Along with some explanatory files in SANA along with the actual scenario configs.)
I believe that we wanted to have three top-level directories (Earth Observing, Lunar, Mars), and then to provide for multiple sub-entries under each of those, with the ESA being the first and the “reference”, but to provide for additional scenarios that organizations
wanted to upload.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I *<b>really</b>* want to see those used for “burn-in” testing of the various implementations. The Blue Book interoperability testing is intended to verify the spec, but scenario-based
testing is needed to verify the interoperation of actual implementations. <o:p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 16, 2025 9:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" target="_blank">durst@mitre.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int" target="_blank">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] RE: DTN input to SIS report to CESG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Ok I’ll add a point about that. I remember the idea in the last months was to publish the scenario description as part of a yellow book
and then the files and related markup somehow in SANA. Is this still the case or all via SANA? Tomaso From:</span><span style="font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ok I’ll add a point about that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I remember the idea in the last months was to publish the scenario description as part of a yellow book and then the files and related markup somehow in SANA. Is this still the
case or all via SANA?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" target="_blank">durst@mitre.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Montag, 16. Juni 2025 11:48<br>
<b>To:</b> Felix Flentge <<a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int" target="_blank">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a>>; de Cola, Tomaso <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" target="_blank">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SIS-DTN_WG <<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DTN input to SIS report to CESG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Darn, yes, please!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 16, 2025 2:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" target="_blank">durst@mitre.org</a>>; tomaso.decola <<a href="mailto:tomaso.decola@dlr.de" target="_blank">tomaso.decola@dlr.de</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] RE: DTN input to SIS report to CESG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Bob / Tomaso,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If not too lates, please add a point regarding the DTN Reference Scenarios.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We probably should also state that the intention is to publish the files + markdown (or similar) specific description in SANA under the DTN area.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert C Durst via SIS-DTN<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 June 2025 21:39<br>
<b>To:</b> tomaso.decola <<a href="mailto:tomaso.decola@dlr.de" target="_blank">tomaso.decola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SIS-DTN_WG <<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Sis-dtn] DTN input to SIS report to CESG<o:p></o:p></p>
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Tomaso,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Whew! What a great week! Thank you to everyone for your hard work and commitment!<o:p></o:p></p>
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