<div dir="ltr">strongly endorse Durst's call for realistic scenario and interoperability testing.<div>v</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 6:34 AM Tomaso de Cola via SIS-DTN <<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-6560522976836790202">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok thank you for the additional detail on this, I’ll add an item immediately after that on BPv7 blue book.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tomaso<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" target="_blank">durst@mitre.org</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Montag, 16. Juni 2025 15:21<br>
<b>To:</b> de Cola, Tomaso <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" target="_blank">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>>; <a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int" target="_blank">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">I believe that we want to have a Yellow Book to provide an overview, with reference to SANA. (Along with some explanatory files in SANA along with the actual scenario configs.) I believe that we wanted
to have three top-level directories (Earth Observing, Lunar, Mars), and then to provide for multiple sub-entries under each of those, with the ESA being the first and the “reference”, but to provide for additional scenarios that organizations wanted to upload.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">I *<b>really</b>* want to see those used for “burn-in” testing of the various implementations. The Blue Book interoperability testing is intended to verify the spec, but scenario-based testing is needed
to verify the interoperation of actual implementations. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">Best,<br>
Bob<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] RE: DTN input to SIS report to CESG<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Ok I’ll add a point about that. I remember the idea in the last months was to publish the scenario description as part of a yellow book and then the files and related
markup somehow in SANA. Is this still the case or all via SANA? Tomaso From: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok I’ll add a point about that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I remember the idea in the last months was to publish the scenario description as part of a yellow book and then the files and related markup somehow in SANA. Is this still the case or all via SANA?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tomaso<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" target="_blank">durst@mitre.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Montag, 16. Juni 2025 11:48<br>
<b>To:</b> Felix Flentge <<a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int" target="_blank">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a>>; de Cola, Tomaso <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" target="_blank">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Darn, yes, please!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">Hi Bob / Tomaso,</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">If not too lates, please add a point regarding the DTN Reference Scenarios.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">We probably should also state that the intention is to publish the files + markdown (or similar) specific description in SANA under the DTN area.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">Regards,</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos">Felix</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-family:Aptos">Tomaso,</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-family:Aptos">Whew! What a great week! Thank you to everyone for your hard work and commitment!</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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