<html><body><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Re node management information and policy management:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yes, although our timeline for completion of that green book is not at all soon, and it was my feeling that we let it perk as a white/concept paper for now. </div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line" dir="ltr"><br><div dir="ltr">And the node management information is the information that GSFC has been working on in their spreadsheet that we expect will inform interoperable management needs as we gain experience. To the extent that we can standardize node management terms, we benefit by reducing ambiguity and preparing for interoperable management when we are ready to define that. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature">Get <a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef">Outlook for iOS</a></div><div> </div><div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container" class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message"><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b> Felix Flentge <Felix.Flentge@esa.int><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 16, 2025 2:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Robert C Durst <durst@mitre.org>; Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de <tomaso.decola@dlr.de>; sburleig.sb@gmail.com <sburleig.sb@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org <sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXT] RE: [Sis-dtn] DTN input to SIS report to CESG</span><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </div></div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr" lang="en" id="pfptBannervsgc3t4" style="visibility: visible !important; opacity: 1 !important; max-width: none !important; max-height: none !important; display: block !important; text-align: left !important; margin: 16px 0px !important; padding: 8px 16px !important; border-radius: 4px !important; min-width: 200px !important; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); border-top-width: 4px !important; border-top-style: solid !important; border-top-color: rgb(144, 164, 174) !important;"><div id="pfptBannervsgc3t4" style="visibility: visible !important; opacity: 1 !important; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); max-height: none !important; float: left !important; display: block !important; margin: 0px 0px 1px !important; max-width: 600px !important;"><div id="pfptBannervsgc3t4" style="opacity: 1 !important; max-width: none !important; max-height: none !important; display: block !important; visibility: visible !important; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, sans-serif !important; font-weight: bold !important; font-size: 14px !important; line-height: 18px !important;">This Message Is From an External Sender</div><div id="pfptBannervsgc3t4" style="font-weight: normal; opacity: 1 !important; max-width: none !important; max-height: none !important; display: block !important; visibility: visible !important; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, sans-serif !important; font-size: 12px !important; line-height: 18px !important; margin-top: 2px !important;">This message originates outside of MITRE. If you feel this is suspicious, please report it via "Report Suspicious Email" button in Outlook.</div></div><div style="line-height: 0; height: 0px; display: block; font-size: 0.01px;"> </div></div><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hi,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">BPSEC: My understanding regarding BPSEC is that we try to proceed with the Blue Book and we just keep the option of an Orange Book in case there is a delay. To me, a fix to RfC 9171 fragmentation doesn’t seem too likely given our recent discussions</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Management: My understanding is a to-be-defined coloured book for DTN (Node) Managed Information and a Green Book for (Concepts of) DTN Policy Management.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Regards,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Felix</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> SIS-DTN <sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert C Durst via SIS-DTN<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 June 2025 01:08<br><b>To:</b> Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de; sburleig.sb@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Sis-dtn] DTN input to SIS report to CESG</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Re: BIBE - We will proceed with the document as is (BIBE, no segmentation). The jury is still out whether we do an Orange-2 to add segmentation or define a second CLA that segments <span style="color: black; background-color: white;">or wait for IETF. But there’s value and need for the current state of the doc. Will have Josh send you the latest version of the text. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; background-color: white;">Re: Management - correct, we only discussed managed information, not the ADMs. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; background-color: white;">Re: BPSec - We discussed the BPSec Orange Book, and the WG wants to keep it, but feels we can meet the current need by resolving the existing fragmentation RID by forbidding the combination of fragmentation and BPSec. This seems like a practical near term solution for CCSDS, allowing us to address fragmentation with a combination of configuration parameters limiting ADU size and by using segmenting CLs, such as LTP. We want to use the Orange Book when a fix is defined in the IETF. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; background-color: white;">Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have further questions. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; background-color: white;">Best regards,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; background-color: white;">Bob</span></p><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Get <span style="color: blue;"><u><a href="https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_o0ukef&d=DwMGaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=i1B0O5UdEkmVhk8Z7XQVcg&m=QHVSGjYFFFrweQIWIOeHkkNm6UwHFCccA7ulJIfsQ8OjSSrsMDd6YUWKyr_UoxOH&s=s4AF-eqaw3K9gJca8DxLOlLbJJL8eZ2lR4N_nHH8JwU&e=" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Outlook for iOS</a></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"><hr dir="ltr" align="center" size="2" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; width: 98%;"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 15, 2025 3:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sburleig.sb@gmail.com" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sburleig.sb@gmail.com</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sburleig.sb@gmail.com" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sburleig.sb@gmail.com</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">><br><b>Cc:</b> Robert C Durst <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">durst@mitre.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>; </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [Sis-dtn] DTN input to SIS report to CESG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div id="pfptBanner4ksy7jg" style="border:none; border-top:solid #90A4AE 3.0pt; padding:6.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm; margin-top:12.0pt; margin-bottom:12.0pt; opacity:1!important; max-width:none!important; max-height:none!important; border-radius:4px!important; min-width:200px!important; visibility:visible"><div id="pfptBanner4ksy7jg" style="margin-bottom:.75pt; opacity:1!important; max-height:none!important; float:left; visibility:visible"><div id="pfptBanner4ksy7jg"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 13.5pt; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; color: black;"><b>This Message Is From an External Sender</b></span></p></div><div id="pfptBanner4ksy7jg" style="margin-top:1.5pt; opacity:1!important; max-width:none!important; max-height:none!important; visibility:visible"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 13.5pt; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;">This message originates outside of MITRE. If you feel this is suspicious, please report it via "Report Suspicious Email" button in Outlook.</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 0%; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 1pt; color: black;"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi Scott,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Thank you for the additional detail on BIBE. Although I like the idea of the apricots sheets, there exists nothing like this in CCSDS for orange books, in the sense that usually these books after some time get retired or elevated to blue/magenta. A possible instrument of revision is given by the periodic 5-year review. Also in light of this I’d prefer to have a more complete book, I.e. also including these new procedures, unless there is an urgent need to have the present version of the book published immediately.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Regards,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Tomaso</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sent from my iPhone</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">On 14. Jun 2025, at 20:08, <span style="color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sburleig.sb@gmail.com" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sburleig.sb@gmail.com</a></u></span> wrote:</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Hi, Tomaso. My sense is that as of Thursday the DTNWG had tentatively agreed that procedures for bundle segmentation and reassembly should be added to BIBE to address known problems with BP fragmentation/reassembly. Bob, was that your sense? If so, should we hold up on the BIBE Orange Book or let it go ahead for now and work on pink sheets (or maybe apricot sheets) for the additional procedures?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Scott</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: currentcolor;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> SIS-DTN <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tomaso de Cola via SIS-DTN<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 13, 2025 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">durst@mitre.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><br><b>Cc:</b> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Sis-dtn] DTN input to SIS report to CESG</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span>Hi Bob,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Thank you for the slides and for great progress!</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Just a question for my understanding, we have two orange books projects about network management, one dealing with the architecture (I.e. based on RFC 9675, amp I-D, etc) that Ed and Brian shared a few weeks ago. Then there is a second one about the DTN management information, which is more about ODM/ADM. From your report I understand only the latter was discussed, or am I wrong?</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Concerning BIBE I see we are ready for publication, shall I issue a resolution for the CESG poll? In such a case I’d like first to review myself the book.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Regards,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Tomaso</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sent from my iPhone</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">On 13. Jun 2025, at 21:38, Robert C Durst <<span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);"><u><a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">durst@mitre.org</a></u></span>> wrote:</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Tomaso,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Slides attached.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">All,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Whew! 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