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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Felix,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I think the overall descriptions and technical contents are cohesive and consistent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There is one aspect that I think can use more up-front clarification: a high-level description for the “scope” of the sequence number. It looks like there is a placeholder for this in Section 2.1 and some description in Section 3.1, but there is not a clear name for the “scope” or “channel” in which a sequence number is unique and used by receivers to correlate them together for “signal” messages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From my reading the scope is a combination of:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The administrative EID of the originator of the sequence number (whether implicit or explicitly encoded)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>One of:<o:p></o:p></span></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>A single destination EID, or<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>An explicit Sequence ID itself scoped to the administrative EID from (1) above<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I don’t think the technical definitions for the use of this scope is missing or inconsistent, there just doesn’t appear to be a higher-up summary like the short list above to frame the technical requirements and explain how the two entities involved ensure uniqueness and proper correlation of the sequence number values. I’m copying Rick Taylor on this message because having a name for this well-defined scope of unique numbers is also something that the BPT-U draft also needs (for very different purposes) but it would be good if the terminology was consistent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The other thing is more technical in Section 3.3: the current Bundle Sequence contains a single pair of “First Sequence Number” and “Length” for each contiguous block of numbers being reported. In the case there are multiple contiguous blocks being reported on this will result in some compressible redundancy in the overall Sequence Collection. I think this is fine for an orange book, discussing what is actually implemented and tested, but it is possible to compress this case and I suggest using a list-of-pairs encoding used in the “range” construct used as part of Section 2.4.4 of the EID Patterns draft [1] but excluding the open-ended last length. That construct is usable for a compressed encoding of any ordered-set-of-finite-integer-intervals. It also degenerates to exactly the form you currently have in the draft orange book when there is only a single interval, so it isn’t a large stretch from what is currently implemented.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks for consideration,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Brian S.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>[1] <a href="https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dtn-eid-pattern-01.html#section-2.4.4-4">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dtn-eid-pattern-01.html#section-2.4.4-4</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> SIS-DTN <sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Felix Flentge via SIS-DTN<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 20, 2025 11:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Dr. Keith L Scott via SIS-DTN <sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXT] [Sis-dtn] Compressed Bundle Status Reporting and Custody Signalling - Orange Book Draft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id=APLWarningText><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=left><tr><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:#E0E0E0;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red;mso-ligatures:none'>APL external email warning: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:none'>Verify sender <a href="mailto:sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a> before clicking links or attachments</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I have uploaded the latest draft of the Compressed Bundle Status Reporting and Custody Signalling - Orange Book to CWE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><a href="https://spacecomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sites/SIS/Shared%20Documents/SIS-DTN/Draft%20Documents/Compressed%20Bundle%20Reporting/CompressedBundleStatusReportingAndCustodySignaling_OrangeBook_Draft_G.docx?d=w0dad34d3ccdf4d55bf5239ef446a99c3&csf=1&web=1"><span class=MsoSmartlink>https://spacecomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sites/SIS/Shared%20Documents/SIS-DTN/Draft%20Documents/Compressed%20Bundle%20Reporting/CompressedBundleStatusReportingAndCustodySignaling_OrangeBook_Draft_G.docx?d=w0dad34d3ccdf4d55bf5239ef446a99c3&csf=1&web=1</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>This draft should be complete in terms of technical specification (but missing some of the non-normative sections).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I would welcome a (final) review by the DTN WG in terms of technical content (and also appreciate help/suggestion for the non-normative sections).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Felix<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>This message is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. It may contain proprietary information and/or protected content. Any unauthorised disclosure, use, retention or dissemination is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. ESA applies appropriate organisational measures to protect personal data, in case of data privacy queries, please contact the ESA Data Protection Officer (<a href="mailto:dpo@esa.int">dpo@esa.int</a>). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>